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57642.11 in reply to 57642.10
Date: 11/13/2008 7:13:01 PM
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having the three minutes gives more room for psychology. You could minimum raise for a few bids, then let it run close to the three minutes and go in 10 x minmum bid higher to try and p1ss the other guy off etc. If all you are doing is minimum bidding, you are not using the full array of negotiating tactics available to you

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57642.12 in reply to 57642.11
Date: 11/13/2008 8:30:03 PM
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That's not about me. That's common. And that's motivated by paying only necessary amount of cash. And it is forbidden to overbid above certain value (to prevent abusive transfers of money). After all it all about humans.

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57642.13 in reply to 57642.3
Date: 11/13/2008 9:22:50 PM
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Plus daytrading will be more effective because you can just chip in and buy low priced players more often.


Then I would like to concur with the original poster ;-)

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57642.15 in reply to 57642.14
Date: 11/13/2008 10:15:11 PM
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no worries...

i am actually in agreement with the current system... there is no reason a bidding war should go on for 1hr... this would imply that 2/3 + managers are just trying for a bargain which in most cases is unlikely to materialize.

when you start bidding on players at the 1.5mil + range it doesnt take long with 2% increments to finish the auctions... if you are trying to pick up a player for $50k thats worth $300k then to get the bargain you have to accept you may have to be online longer to gain that benefit.


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57642.16 in reply to 57642.10
Date: 11/13/2008 11:53:41 PM
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How you would recognise what was original auction time?


Are you serious? I don't think I even need to answer this.

a) prizes could go unnaturaly higher because people would like to bid "in time"


This makes no sense at all. Why would people pay more for a player because they had to bid before the initial expiry?

b)auctions could be decided in few first hours worse minutes and it would be more about who would find the player soon enough which is not fair for not hardcore users and users with different time than seller.


I can't believe that you think 3 days is not long enough for "hardcore users" to find a player oin the transfer list. It is actually better for the players who log more time because they are more likely to have seen the player. This point is just absurd.

And could be more abusive too,


Please elaborate, because I have no idea why you come up with that.

c) everybody would bid in last minutes which could cause troubles when 10 people bidding at the same time with the same bid


It already happens the way things are now.

this could happen now too but you can be more relaxed knowing if someone would make a bid you have +3 minutes, there is currently no fixed deadline to make a bid


Clearly you do not understand my point at all. The 3 minutes would still be there, but you would be required to have at least begun to participate in the bidding before the auctions initial time limit expires.

I think it is petty reasonable to expect that if someone is interested in a player they should try be there when the auction expires, or at the very least have entered a bid already. You claim it is unfair to expect this, but I believe it is unfair to the people who bid before the deadline to allow people to decide to join 30 minutes after it could have ended.

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57642.17 in reply to 57642.16
Date: 11/14/2008 5:02:15 AM
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What about....if there has been a bid late on in the auction which triggers the 3 minute extension, rather than continually extending the time, it should immediately become a silent auction with managers allowed to bid a price (in secret) - the highest "silent" bid would win. All done with a 3 minute extension.

Each manager would only get 1 silent bid and it must be more than the final bid prior to the extension being granted.

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57642.18 in reply to 57642.16
Date: 11/14/2008 5:24:42 AM
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I think it is petty reasonable to expect that if someone is interested in a player they should try be there when the auction expires, or at the very least have entered a bid already. You claim it is unfair to expect this, but I believe it is unfair to the people who bid before the deadline to allow people to decide to join 30 minutes after it could have ended.


Why?
maybe I just follow the bidwar and wait the right moment to come in. I don't need to make an early bid knowing that particular player will be sold for much more money

vječna dilema, da li je bolje zabiti koš više ili primiti koš manje?
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57642.19 in reply to 57642.18
Date: 11/14/2008 7:27:14 AM
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Or maybe I haven't been online in four days, log on and see the exact player I want with two minutes left to bid on him. Should I be punished and not be allowed to bid?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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57642.20 in reply to 57642.18
Date: 11/14/2008 7:27:33 AM
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It's exactly as Superfly said. You don't have to minimumraise the bid every time, you don't have to wait 3 minutes before bidding again as well.

You can bid every second and you can raise the bid with whatever amount you wish. If you want to seal the auction in 5 minutes, just bid enough.

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57642.21 in reply to 57642.20
Date: 11/14/2008 7:36:21 AM
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even if that is possible which it is,

you have to worry how the server responses because i have lost numberous bids already through when i bid the page refreshes for 2-3 minutes next thing i know i might have been overbid or didnt bid actually

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