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I say the voters are often those dudes, who read the first post which is mostly in favour of the suggestion and vote then before making deeper thoughts or reading the discussion.

I don't agree. What is known is that they where splitted up, so the argue most (and by far) prefer current system is just wrong, and this is the main point I had there.

One of the very few who wrote here told that he considered leaving the game due to this system.

which give me more the opion that the vote is biased towards the suggestion, instead of against it.

Yes, because those who against the new system just doesn't vote, but they are against it. Sounds "right"...

Guess what, those who already left could not add their vote to that...

if that is so crucial then obviously a change will, lead to peiople leaving without getting those back who didn't continued.

What will happen is that there will be less users who will leave the game due to this unfairness system.
On the other hand, saying that people will leave it due to eBay feature changed just shouts that your trying to find exuses against the suggested system.
This is NOT why users stay in the game, and I still didn't see why it changes things to those who favour it (excpet the fairness issue).

the problem is you don't see it, so it is boring to bid against. And when you see it, there will be friends bidding just below the auto bid, or people who simple enjoy this. And this could lead to overpaying more, then you will most likely put in a higher number cause you say someone else had to pay the same amount then me before i pay it.

I just didn't understand your claim here.

First of all, an excuse of what? I am in Div.V, do you think I have any actul say in this matter?
Like I've said, I've never bought any player at night either.


Anyways, the problem I pointed out is what I see as most remarkable.
It surely isn't the only reason why the community of BB voted against it.
But if 100+ pages of discussion and a poll isn't enough, what can I say.

Not that it is important, but it is 100 posts and not 100 pages.

Anyhow, this is why you brang specifically that point you brang and no other, and when the solution had been found to approve auto-bid and to answer the "problem" you've raised none other.

The poll didn;t prove it wrong.
It is basically splitted.

Well, he voted yes, so that´s obviously a reason to call it split.

Pini, have you ever coded anything? I did some minor coding in C++, most 'goto' commands and such working on a very small and simple RPG. We went through a game, probably 20 Hours of play time, and I spent many many hours just coding my small section of the game (Narrative and 'goto' commands to link one place to another).

I put probably 100 hours into my side of the project, no telling how much my friend put into the more complex issues while I was doing character concept or story board... and he had all the hard equations and such to deal with.

Have you ever looked at and read code? Also not that one wrong keystroke can mess up the entire program, like the e I didn't put at the end of note. Did you catch that the first time, not instead of note? Probably not. Then, 2 hours later, when you are done plugging in all the code and go to run it... you have an error. Then you sift back through all that code, line on top of line, to find on little stroke missing.

To say it wouldn't cost (in man-power, lost customers due to bugs, etc) or that it wouldn't take long to code are wild claims. Unless you are an amazing coder... then I am sure you could write the code and offer it to the BB Gods. Maybe they would use it then.

OK, let's assume this is the reason, and not an excuse. [I think this is an excuse, but let's make a new statement]

Okay, thank you for this consideration.

A solution - new users cannot use auto-bids!
They need to be a full season in the game before they can use it.

Since your main argument is that some users are at a disadvantage in an unfair market, and that is all solved by introducing auto-bidding, why would you then intentionally put the new users at a disadvantage? You have been telling they are leaving the game in droves due to not getting to auto-bid. Now you just can't get them out the door fast enough.

Can someone please close this! This is getting nowhere.

Splitted, as I already wrote several times, is that in contradiction of a claim the votes where not purely supporting one side.
It is not just me voting for this.

21 voted in favour (9 thought it is a good idea, but there are better things to handle), and 36 voted against.
This is splitted. No one said it is evenly splitted.

It means that there are others (and they are not a small group) who find this a good suggestion (that I didn't raise it).

The developers will not decide about this feature upon voting status, but about relevance.

Here you didn't wrote about relevance.
Let me assume that the "lake of excuses" just got dry for a short while.

This is the first time I see someone behave like he's won a poll when he's clearly lost it.

You are a very creative guy Pini

Pini, have you ever coded anything?

Well, you can bet I've coded (much) more than a little...

The developers will first need to decide whether this feature is needed.
It is sertaintly do, as users are leaving the game because they could not match and due to unfairness in the game that gives great advantage to those who just have more flexible time.
It is a ridicolus unfairness for any game.

The second taks will be to estimate the time this featue will take.
It should not take them to long, as most of their infrastructure is already coded and it is only needed to be adjusted at most, and in addition there are no hard computation tasks here.

The third part will be to prioritize upon need and time.
I believe this is one of the most needed features due to the fact that users are leving the game due to that unfairness (which by its own makes it a high priority task).

Regarding the cost of bugs etc.
One who will not code will never have bugs.
As improving the game is due to making some code changes, bugs will happen. Hopefully not much...
In this case and due to the nature of the feature, it should be rather simple and bug free.