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Sure except I didn't start when there were less than 200 users, genius...I thought I already explained, but evidently not.

Also as already explained to others in the past, you cannot make the equivalence to 10 in a 300 people country and 100 in a 3000 country. You may say that I wouldn't have climbed to #2 in England and low #100s globally (which I was and in a game with more managers) if I played Spain, but you wouldn't be able to provide any proof for that. It's your subjective opinion. In your case however, we all have proof you never even come close to #2 in Spain because you never even cracked #110 in Spain. Do you understand? It's basic, you should be able to...

If you fail understand this, there is not much I can help you with. And I have 5 promotions all obtained while training, 4 of which from non-bot leagues (in the first I had 3 bots like you), while you have....zero promotions from non-bot leagues and zero promotions while training!!! A huge round of applause for Evaristo who has yet to accomplish anything relevant, training-wise or winning-wise, and thinks he's hot stuff because he got $6 million falling in his lap and should explain how this game works to managers who have accomplished things both training-wise and winning-wise and have seen the rise and fall in numbers!!!

Congratulations. Wait, do you know a bit about psychology by being a doctor or a patient?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 9:18:23 AM

lolol, it hurts so much to be in a lesser league that you have to make stuff up mate? Just promote while training then we will take you seriously.

Also since you are failing to understand something so idiot-proof. Repeat:

you cannot make the equivalence to 10 in a 300 people country and 100 in a 3000 country. You may say that I wouldn't have climbed to #2 in England and low #100s globally (which I was and in a game with more managers) if I played Spain, but you wouldn't be able to provide any proof for that. It's your subjective opinion. In your case however, we all have proof you never even come close to #2 in Spain because you never even cracked #110 in Spain. Do you understand? It's basic, you should be able to...

I have played top Spanish managers (Mequtrefes, Darkonako) and several BBB winners in Utopia, actually. With this in mind I can tell you that the top managers in Serbia (385 users today) would have most likely won in D1 in Spain too. The same goes for Poland which has been known to have a much harder D1 than Spain despite having 2/3 of users. The equivalence you is just dumb!

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 9:27:37 AM

Do you know what is a percentile?

Of course I know.

However, while you are making assumptions on statistical distributions, I'm giving you hard facts:
- do you agree you can't prove I wouldn't be in D1 and #10 in Spain right now if I played in Spain? All you can say is that statisically this may be unlikely, because if BB users are equally skilled across nations, it's more likely there are 90 users better than me than 0 (so there is also a chance I could be #1 in Spain while I only manage #10 over here)
- do you agree that on the other hand you have never gone beyond D3 and never got better than #118 or whatever you are in Spain?
Therefore your equivalence is based on probability: it's a possibility for me while it is a certainty for you. Agreed? Do you think the fact that I'm ranked 23 in Utopia while training single position for the last 10 seasons makes it more or less likely? What are you ranked in Utopia? Oh you never joined, too competitive, it should be easy for you to replicate your success in such a smaller nation, shouldn't it?

The only thing you can draw from statistics is that it is harder to get into D1 through 3 promotions than it is through 2. Nobody disputes that. However, it may not be likely, but is entirely possible that the top 10 managers in Serbia, Poland and England are better than the top 10 managers in Spain.

In fact I'd argue the lack of success from Spain at the NT level in the last 20 seasons is a clear indicator and actual evidence that the userbase on average is not as good as that of other smaller nations, which is where, I'm afraid, all your assumptions start to smell like garbage.


If I were you I'd stop arguing as if you can understand what the problems are for a veteran team in D1 or D2. You are neither a veteran nor you've ever been in a higher league. Also you cannot understand people in lower leagues who, unlike you, never won the lottery and got a 6 million random payout in their second season. You barely promoted from a bot league so far...a bot slayer.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 9:59:17 AM

I think I upvoted you :)

Although since you are from a micronation with less than 500 users I'd like to have the ball back.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 10:01:12 AM

I think we will be merged with Scotland and Wales, maybe Ireland. And a mid nation can become a micro in time. So there's that :).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/4/2017 10:20:12 AM

And what's your view Manon? Do you think the prices are so high that it's harder for people to catch up? Do you think that training is still an unprofitable business, so the (stated) primary objective of inflation failed as the ace of bots claimed? Are we happy to have a decline in skill across leagues (maybe we're closer to the bottom than we think, who knows)?