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67475.113 in reply to 67475.110
Date: 1/16/2009 9:55:05 AM
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Why do you enter any discussion spreading your wisdom without accepting other opinions? While reading that thread it gave me a lot of useful information and some interesting statements how the BB´s intend to change the importance of SB. After you have started to talk here you interrupt any ongoing discussion about that issue. You have a very annoying style of "killing" any structural talks...

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Date: 1/16/2009 1:48:03 PM
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While reading that thread it gave me a lot of useful information and some interesting statements how the BB´s intend to change the importance of SB.

Maybe you should review the discussion again. In particular, the last line of BB-Forrest's posts.



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67475.115 in reply to 67475.114
Date: 1/16/2009 2:32:51 PM
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No thanks, I do not need to review the discussion again, because I know the difference between a discussion and facts...

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Date: 1/16/2009 9:45:06 PM
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A lot of focus here is on the number of shot blocks, which I don't particularly care about. The general agreement seems to be that they are within the realm of what we see in the NBA. The distribution may be off, but I'll leave that discussion to others.

I just wanted to concur that good shot blocking should not just result in blocks. That was part of my original post. It should also help with defense. When I play basketball, if a guy blocks one of my shots, I'm going to be a little less confident the next time he defends me. I'll take a modified shot or I won't shoot at all.

So the point is - shot blocking should also have an impact on defense. That is one way to make the skill more important.


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67475.117 in reply to 67475.116
Date: 1/17/2009 10:11:36 PM
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I personally like the idea of altered shots when SB comes into play. It does tie in with RL instances on the court.

However, SB remains more of an Inside skill rather than an Outside one. This is because when you are guarding someone on the outside, you tend to give him a bigger 'leash' or keep him a specific distance from you. The closer you get to the rim, the more this distance reduces and when you're under the basket, you're literally side by side. The shorter the leash is, the bigger impact SB will have on altering the shots.

I feel this brings another dimension to defences, and not dependent on one skill.

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67475.118 in reply to 67475.117
Date: 1/20/2009 3:17:02 PM
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I personally like the idea of altered shots when SB comes into play. It does tie in with RL instances on the court.

However, SB remains more of an Inside skill rather than an Outside one. This is because when you are guarding someone on the outside, you tend to give him a bigger 'leash' or keep him a specific distance from you. The closer you get to the rim, the more this distance reduces and when you're under the basket, you're literally side by side. The shorter the leash is, the bigger impact SB will have on altering the shots.

I feel this brings another dimension to defences, and not dependent on one skill.


This is an interesting observation. Also, few players are double-teamed (trapping aside) on the outside -- where as you get closer to the basket, the chance of a double-teamed is much greater.


Steve
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67475.119 in reply to 67475.82
Date: 1/23/2009 1:37:41 PM
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The honest crux of the issue is that Shotblocking needs an overhaul to correct the distribution and add the intuitive parts of the game that shotblocking creates. "Changing the shot" and Changing shot selection to account for the games big shot blockers.

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Date: 1/27/2009 1:33:20 PM
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The honest crux of the issue is that Shotblocking needs an overhaul to correct the distribution and add the intuitive parts of the game that shotblocking creates. "Changing the shot" and Changing shot selection to account for the games big shot blockers.


Bingo...we have a winner!


Steve
Bruins

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67475.121 in reply to 67475.1
Date: 1/27/2009 4:02:12 PM
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The shot blocking skill can be useful.

Just look at the leading blocker in Slovakia. A $50k center. I know he plays against inferior centers all the time but a high blocking skill can lead to a high average of blocks per game.

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67475.122 in reply to 67475.121
Date: 1/27/2009 4:11:45 PM
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but this is pretty rare, so that this numbers wasn't the result of his skill and the result of random when he making more then 1,5 per game - it is hard to see who you mean.

And for this 1,5 blocks the salary is extrem, so it is disadvantegeous to train it.

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67475.123 in reply to 67475.122
Date: 1/28/2009 6:10:25 AM
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He averages 2,5 blocks per game but I think he has a lot of blocks due to playing against weaker centers than his high SB skill being useful.

All I wanted to say that SB isn't absolutely useless.

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