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Please get back on topic a bit, this is going nowhere.

We know we got problems here, many updates show a small delay and sometimes games show a delay as well. We hope to fix some of these problems in offseason, but this will most certainly require some downtime, thus it's better to wait untill offseason than during the season.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 3/15/2010 7:19:12 AM

Got carried away a bit. I have made my point some 20+ posts ago :D No need to drag this any longer.

Keep watching those sci-fi movies. Teleportation, warp speed traveling spaceships, cyborgs - you name it. We have laws of physics, how living tissue reacts to "foreign" parts, no matter if it's a transplanted kidney or bone replaced with stainless steel prosthesis etc.

I don't get what your comment has to do with anything I said. All I said was that a computer can be programmed to do anything that a human can. A computer can be programmed to learn, or to "think".

Saying that it can't be programmed is to say that Artificial Intelligence doesn't exist. Which would be ridiculous.

i am sorry??? and dont tell me i need to be patient with regards to updates etc...

I have been playing BB since season 3 and since a season or two you see updates being delayed more and more and more. this is not something that happened the last week or so.

I dont mind to wait if there is a problem... but saying these delays are small is once again relative. i dont think it is small. the updates used to happen at 10 am CET for England, now they happen 1230 CET. I have brought up this issue a few times, because there is clearly some kind off "overload" problem with the servers or something. I just asked, didnt mean any offence with my questions and always got avoiding or patronising answers from GMs or BB developers or got no reply at all or have been told to be "patient".

you dont need to be an IT wizard to sense something isnt running smoothly, I am really no IT wizard, but I have played many many other games like this one before. And i havent played a single game where updates etc were being delayed as extremely as in BB. some games have no delays whatsoever. as in the past some people on these forums said in hattrick they have more money so they can fix things better, well they have more people playing too, so i am certain more problems too.

I understand that for the BB developers this is more a hobby than a job and I can understand this isnt their main priority in life, but atleast acknowledge you have a problem, but say you cant fix them right now for whatever reason, than to continuesly avoid the issue and/or act like you have no problem. I can assure you from a customer point off view (and they arent stupid believe me, i am a customer service expert) this patronising behaviour is worse.

Coming back to the delays, I can live with them, I can say I spend many hours on BB, probably too many, but I can wait a few hours, but the delays are becoming longer and longer and this not being acknowedlge as being a problem is unacceptable...

good luck fixing the game view issues and the delays and I am sure you can fix them in the off season. other games dont have these delays, so why should BB have them...

(waiting for the patronising answers)

How old are you exactly? Go read about AI and the problem they have on all of the sub levels. There is no AI similar to human brain, not even near to it...

Please take the AI discussion to non-BB, should you wish to continue it.

20. And I study computer science. And I didn't say that we were close to AI. I said it was possible to code. Extremely difficult, and we haven't quite worked out how, but it is definitely possible.

Feel free to write me a BB-mail.

I don't know how you conclude those things, but they certainly aren't right. Maybe it's because I'm not a native english speaker, or maybe you didn't understand most of the posts made by me here.

If you filter my posts in this thread, almost every single one says we know there are problems, and then you add a full post of arguments that we act like there aren't any. That's just weird if you ask me.

I'm not gonna compare our situation with Hattrick's, since I don't know enough about both to really bring in a good comparison. But I played Hattrick for a long time as well, and there were quite some days where they took down the whole website fixing things. We could have done this as well, but during playoffs, on which you would probably agree with me, isn't the best time in the season to take down the website. Sure you can be mad about problems not being fixed quickly, but I can't do much to make you feel better here other than to hope offseason will help reducing the amount of problems in BuzzerBeater.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 3/15/2010 12:23:07 PM

just to mention:

for some problems ( sometimes only very minor ones, such as linking a score to a certain player in a different way) you need 50, 100 or more lines of code...

find the problems usually isn't the hard part. the hard part is providing the write code to solve them. ad the more complex a program becomes the harder it becomes to solve problems, because you have to be sure it remains compatible with the other programs.

regards

Rev

off topic ps: BB-Patrick, Astra can read dutch too :p