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From: cws33
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Date: 1/12/2015 8:25:05 PM
EDH Wolves
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Congrats to Tucumcari on making the Final and representing the Big 8. Hopefully, I can say I was beaten by the champs.

Last edited by cws33 at 1/12/2015 8:25:23 PM

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From: Xtc
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Date: 1/14/2015 2:03:03 PM
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I made the Finals for the first time.....the first game is also the same day that my kid is born....that's too much to be handled

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Date: 1/14/2015 2:57:22 PM
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congrats on becoming a parent. I hope you have build up a good sleep reserve. For sure, it will be a great experience.

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 1/14/2015 3:31:20 PM
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I made the Finals for the first time.....the first game is also the same day that my kid is born....that's too much to be handled


Awesome! Nice for something good to come out of yesterday. And yeah, I hope you don't enjoy sleep much, since you won't get a lot of sleep for the first few months, and then after that for the next, oh, well at least 9 years so far. ;)

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Date: 1/14/2015 3:48:43 PM
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let me echo hrudey -- kids never sleep, and neither does BuzzerBeater!

From: TnT
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Date: 1/14/2015 4:49:43 PM
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Congrats xtc on your new addition to the family.

let me echo hrudey -- kids never sleep, and neither does BuzzerBeater! I-)


haha you beat me to this!!!

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Date: 1/15/2015 6:10:13 AM
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i don't have a lot of experience with players over the age of 32, and the two players the Chargers just placed on the TL showed me something of the unpredictability of their declines. Blake has been earning $58,000, which is a ton of money for a SF, but only has what we could call a modest skill set (a pretty good player at the right price) -- but i have an addon that estimates his salary now at $44,000 -- the declines in some skills (i'm guessing JS / JR) must have been impressive.

on the other hand, another 34 year old, Xiang, still looks to have all his skills -- 126 skill points, still a very impressive player. (my salary estimator addon suggests he lost no skills this season.) but next season? my experience is so limited that i don't know how fast players drop: 5 skill points a season? 10? it does seem to me that beginning at 126 sp would guarantee a decent player for at least another 3 seasons or so, but i don't know how much i would spend to see if that were true.

it will be interesting to see what the market thinks of those players.

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Date: 1/16/2015 11:18:46 AM
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I suppose I should chime in here since I trained up a a core of guys then ran them into their mid-late 30's.

Career Extension trainers are worth it. You can go through the both years of 33 and 34 with say 1-4 skill drops total, but 2-3 would be the most common by far. 35 is when some of the magic of Career Extension wears off and the drops hit harder. You'll start seeing some double drops, which is a skill dropping from, say, Prodigious to Wondrous.

If you've trained up a player (or bought him), and he fits your team exactly how you want. He's probably worth more to you than he would be on the Transfer List.

However, now is a very good time to sell 33+ year olds.

it will be interesting to see what the market thinks of those players.


The market for older players is temporarily inflated. This should be the last season of a mass of people promoting to higher tiers in Utopia.

16 new Utopia teams needing D1 payrolls. 40 new Utopian D2 teams. I'm not even going to count how many D3 teams would be really interested in 33+ year old players making between 10-40k.

From: jista26

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Date: 1/16/2015 1:50:05 PM
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Now that my guys sold I can weigh in here. I can echo everything that AZ laid out above. I got a bit less than I expected for Xiang and bit more for Blake but the main goal was to shed salary so I got about a $170K "rebate" if I wait until after the next financial update to replace them. Xiang was one OD drop from being a liability so I was kind of stuck. I might have been able to roll with Blake as a backup SF but his salary was out of line for his skill set.

As for the skill drops, Xiang lost 2 points over 60 days and Blake lost 2 over 30. I have seen it suggested that higher potential slows down the erosion of skills. In my limited experience, I have found that to be the case but it may be more of a small sample size bias. In any case, if they fit your team strategy an older player can definitely provide good bang for the buck.

From: Dmitri

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Date: 1/16/2015 10:08:53 PM
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WTF Bullish ?? I wish I had your IQ.

Or is it mostly Utopia, & my complete lack of knowledge thereof?

Regardless, Thx for the insights ...

From: AZ

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Date: 1/17/2015 1:39:31 PM
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I mean, everyone in the NBBA has a high BB IQ. We wouldn't have gotten this far otherwise.

And yeah it'd be easier to pick up if you had a Utopian team. Most of the teams try and compete with older players, and use the money they would've spent on younger players, towards arenas or something like that.

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