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Date: 9/27/2010 2:38:14 AM
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Ocho, I'd argue that at least game shape can be controlled without sacrificing the ability to be competitive in your league, so enthusiasm is this more important to control. Of course, we'd both like to see both options be implemented. Enthusiasm is actively dictating the end of a competitive and entertaining PL, though, and that's disappointing.
Either this, or add the option to go TIE in scrimmages, but this is easier, and more sensible.
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Date: 9/27/2010 9:33:37 AM
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I agree with adding the option to limit enthusiasm in PL's. PL's are glorified scrimmages basically, and is a fun add on part of the game. We can level the playing field by having no home court advantages, why not enthusiasm too?
I'd also like the ability to play more than 1 PL game per week. Even just 1 more would be great. We could have some pretty epic leagues going that way.
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Date: 9/27/2010 11:27:28 AM
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Yes I may have let the dark side take over. I studied Logic as a subject at University and achieved High Distinction so I guess I found the suggestion that I was lacking in logic quite offensive. Perhaps I should have just taken a chill pill. Sorry.
In the end I have been persuaded that it is a good idea to have as an option as you have suggested. Options are good.
If anyone else wants to be 66% more angry like I was it is time to join the dark side by clicking here:
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Date: 9/28/2010 2:22:29 PM
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Personally I am not a fan of this at all. And before everyone yells and screams, please let it be known that I do like options. In fact in most cases more options are clearly better. In this particular case I feel that the options cloud the actual game.
Being an effective manager in BB is very complex and 'leveling' the playing field by taking enthusiasm and game shape out of the equation would create a false sense. The very best teams are teams that learn to effectively manage enthusiasm, game shape, home court etc. So to remove any of those items from games results is effectively removing a critical part of the game. New and old players alike should always be striving to get better, and in BB that involves enthusiasm and game shape management. It is not an arcade game, it is a management simulator. Hence people should manage there teams accordingly.
You may as well line the rosters up head to head and total skill points and salary. The team with the higher points and salary could be awarded the 'W' with out even playing the game, heck it would save the server some work load.
FTW there is a post above this that suggests unlimited games. If that was the case maybe, and I mean maybe games could be simed in an 'arcade mode'.
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Date: 9/28/2010 5:57:39 PM
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PL-s do not need entu. It's the best place to test.
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Date: 9/28/2010 7:18:19 PM
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Test what?? Poor management of gameshape??
Well I would love to test a quadruple sensational SG, can I get one for my PL games...
As I said the game is about managing a team, which includes various tasks. If we are going to start to limit some of the management task, whats the point of the game. The best players would and should win ever time.
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Date: 9/28/2010 11:13:31 PM
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Arcade mode should be arcade mode. No Enthusiasm. Period. Every team should be set at 5 for every game. Pure team vs. team. That's what I think.
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Date: 9/29/2010 6:42:22 AM
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And you want to see easy league TIE team run over competitive league teams? So if you want to know which is the best team with GS and entu equal, there is no better place than PL. This is how it should stay.
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Date: 9/29/2010 9:31:00 AM
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Actually, I do think GS should all be set to the same level across the board. Maybe it shouldn’t be respectable, but something closer to what starters typically are during the course of the season, probably set them all to strong. I mean, don’t you think it’s odd in a PL that when the league schedule coincides with the end of a regular that players have solid GS, but then when the season resets suddenly the PL games have everyone at respectable? There should be no connection between the league/cup games and a PL. Why should a team that has the ability to TIE most games in an overmatched league in its own country get an enthusiasm boost advantage against a team that is in a very competitive country league where it’s hard to keep a high enthusiasm? I think of “arcade style” as one that sets all variables outside of the base skills of the players equal. It should be about which team is better, who can put out the best lineup with the players on their roster, who can pick the best offensive and defensive strategy, etc. This is why I really support the original suggestion.
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