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How you ask? Well... It's really REALLY simple.
He scored more points than you.

Dude this is your 3rd season on IV.25 come and check out IV.18 this is my 8th season there and we have a team that is in his 12th season and some other teams are in their 7th and 6th seasons so i can't feel sorry for you for being there for only 3 seasons. Good luck i hope your promotion comes soon and if not just enjoy the game you will promote at some point.

it just doesn't seem right to me. How can teams that are supposedly weaker than me be swimming in so much cash that they can just immediately buy the best players on the tl and upgrade their arena. then they promote and blow every1 out of the water. I dont like that because it just doesn't make sense, if a higher team coasted through their division then they shouldn't get the promotion bonus because they dont need it.

but then again maybe it's my team, I dont understand how they can foul so much when they have so much defense. I look at other top ranked teams and their salary's aren't far from mine but yet I get beaten by cheap tactics like CT.

It is called "team management" those guys know how to manage heir players and their cash unlike myself and that is why i am still in D-IV. And the reason your team fouls so much is usually low stamina and/or low game shape. I have not looked at your team but from my experience with my team that is the reasons. But these other guys on these forums are a lot smarter than i so i would look into their advice. And lighten up and enjoy the game. This game is more like a marathon than a sprint. Good luck

Well the teams that are "weaker" than you are probably only weaker than you at the moment because they have decided to save up their cash instead of immediately spending it on players. That is how people become stronger and have better teams in this game. You have to rebuild and save up money and then make a move.

if a higher team coasted through their division then they shouldn't get the promotion bonus because they dont need it.

umm... I honestly don't know what to say to this except that your opinion is slightly ridiculous. Just because they don't need the money doesn't mean that they didn't earn it. The deserve the promotion money because they promoted regardless of whether they needed the money or not. Thats how it works.

I look at other top ranked teams and their salary's aren't far from mine but yet I get beaten by cheap tactics like CT.

It happens. I personally take a great deal of joy in CTing other teams because it makes them want to strangle me in pure rage CT isn't really a cheap tactic though because it pretty much kills your enthusiasm and makes it A LOT harder to win your next game if you CT someone. It's just part of the game that you will have to learn to love and deal with it.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 3/22/2013 1:00:21 AM

That is a tough loss. Here are my observations:

1) You're a little light on rebounding/flow. If you're going to play Look Inside it's important to have good RB on PF and C for putback opportunities, and great PA on PG to overcome the opponent's outside defense (boosted as it is by enthusiasm, home court, etc). I know you can't afford everything and I haven't looked over the other competition in your league but another notch or two would have gone a long way in this game.

2) Tuan Dan got destroyed. That was a really bad matchup for you, with the other team running an outside tactic with a monster scorer at PG (his position lists as SG and at $45k salary it's not going to matter what his gameshape is compared to Tuan Dan). In this case you could have checked out your opponent's lineups and seen Galo, a $14k PG, playing 48 minutes at SF every game, and hidden your weakest defender there -- but it's tricky if you're trying to train players and you have a big difference between starter/backup and PG/SG!

3) Honestly, you got quite unlucky. He got about 20 points on 14 shots at PF when the pp100 score says he "should have" gotten 13 points. He got ~37 points on 26 shots (!!) at PG when pp100 suggested 24. That right there is a 20 point swing in his favor. Your players slightly overperformed at some positions but mostly matched the pp100, so there was an element of bad luck here. I feel your pain -- in season 19 I went 21-1, losing only this game (42761176)... by one point on a buzzerbeater!


As far as long-term success, I have been telling anyone that asks that there are 3 viable strategies now that the game has reached maturity and you can't daytrade your way to the top:
a) Build a huge arena and over time assemble a superior, cost efficient team. This can get you up to D.II but by then all your competition will be following one of my ideas ;)
b) "Flare" your team by saving up money and buying more talent than you can sustain, assuming that promotion will increase your income and make the gamble pay off. These teams are usually the ones with rosters where everyone is over 30 years old.
c) Get three stud trainees and train them to fit a particular tactic, ie. train three shooting guards for RnG (and play all three at PG/SG/SF in important games) or three big men for LI (and play all three at SF/PF/C when necessary). This works because, especially for LI, it's easy to get that last guy or two off TL, and more importantly, salaries only update when the season flips -- so a guy you've been training all season might cost $50k salary, but play like a $100k player come playoff time.

Now I think c) is most fun, and I had a nice run of success by doing a) and c) somewhat simultaneously; but it took an enormous amount of patience.

Good luck!

it just doesn't seem right to me. How can teams that are supposedly weaker than me be swimming in so much cash that they can just immediately buy the best players on the tl and upgrade their arena. then they promote and blow every1 out of the water.

That sir, is called tanking.

but then again maybe it's my team, I dont understand how they can foul so much when they have so much defense. I look at other top ranked teams and their salary's aren't far from mine but yet I get beaten by cheap tactics like CT.

CTs are not cheap tactics too. You can't really CT blindly.

Cheap tactic? CT? Scoff at whoever said that... CT is not a cheap tactic but comes at a hefty price of devouring game shape. I just pulled off a huge CT cup win. May cost me 2 league wins but it was worth it to me for the cup win. Knowing when you can CT and win, and when an opponent can pull off the CT and beat you is an integral part of managing and being a good manager.

Also: less salary does not always mean weaker. Could just be more salary efficient

CT is not a cheap tactic but comes at a hefty price of devouring game shape

What? CTing has no effect on Game Shape, at least none that I've heard or seen.

Your team has no depth. As soon as one of your starters gets in foul trouble, hurt, or has bad game shape, or even subbed for some rest. You have an ENORMOUS drop off to the next guy. Also you do not appear to be training players to make them better on a game by game basis each week...

You complain of others buying players and promoting, when I see your starting 5 are all purchased players in that same regard.

CT is not a cheap tactic but comes at a hefty price of devouring game shape

What? CTing has no effect on Game Shape, at least none that I've heard or seen.

prob means enthusiasm. he is a newbie still.