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251113.12 in reply to 251113.10
Date: 11/30/2013 3:53:55 PM
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Sorry I can't quote a BB so you may choose to not believe me but several people much smarter than me that have done serious investigations have drawn this conclusion.

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251113.13 in reply to 251113.1
Date: 11/30/2013 11:02:51 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Canada Purple Haze BC
Having trained players for 12 seasons I have come to certain conclusions:
1 - There are without a doubt sub levels since I have had players stop popping at the bottom end of potential
2 - Some players seem to have a better work rate than others (Pop faster)
3 - Unless you keep a close statistical eye on things it's sometimes tough to tell exact sublevels of each skill..so..you list his main skills this way:
9-3
10-10
12-8
15-15
15-6

But what if they are really:
9.7-3.8
10.6-10.8
well, you get the idea, it has pushed his potential to the brink in many different skills without actually popping in any of them.
Thus that owner would be the only one to truly know the worth of his player.

It would seem however that your player should not have capped yet

Last edited by Headless T Gunner at 11/30/2013 11:04:18 PM

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251113.14 in reply to 251113.13
Date: 12/1/2013 5:04:53 AM
Kitakyushu
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Having trained players for 12 seasons I have come to certain conclusions:
1 - There are without a doubt sub levels since I have had players stop popping at the bottom end of potential


Well, I have been training players since season 7 and been a NT manager for 10 seasons and I just don't see it. You say without a doubt but there has to be some doubt since you didn't make the game.
Like I said before...during season 9 or 10 I asked about Trainer levels and if they had sub-levels and the answer was NO, and then I asked about Potential and sub-levels and the answer was NO. So you would think if they made a change as big as this(potential having sub-levels) that they would have said something or would have updated the user manual. As of right now, I will continue to believe that Potential has a soft cap and that a Superstar is just that a Superstar not an almost Per. Allstar or an almost MVP.

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251113.15 in reply to 251113.14
Date: 12/1/2013 6:43:14 AM
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There is definitly sublevels look at my guy.

Weekly salary: $ 53 727
Role: rotation player
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 610400
Age: 27
Height: 6'11" / 211 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong
Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: strong Handling: inept
Driving: average Passing: awful
Inside Shot: wondrous Inside Def.: wondrous
Rebounding: tremendous Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: awful Free Throw: respectable

Experience: respectable

When I gave up he had training in these skills when he was still under 25.

JS:6.4 weeks
JR:5.3
OD:4.9
HA:4.9
DR:5.3
IS:6.0
ID 3.0
REB:2.0

He had 1 pop in his last 21 weeks of training.
None of the last 13.
IS was the last five weeks.


Last edited by Myles at 12/1/2013 6:44:37 AM

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251113.16 in reply to 251113.15
Date: 12/1/2013 7:33:07 AM
Kitakyushu
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and this is your proof...It looks like you hit the soft cap on a Per. Allstar and his training slowed down due to it along with his age....
Like I said before....You can say definitely, but unless you are a BB, I just can't 100% believe it. I am hoping this gets to BB Marin and he can shed some light on it.

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251113.18 in reply to 251113.16
Date: 12/1/2013 6:41:04 PM
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There is a difference between slowing down due to age and soft cap and not popping at all for 13 weeks. I've always believed that there are sublevels and many other managers also support it. Can we provide you with 100% proof? No, but many signs seem to point to it.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 12/1/2013 6:41:33 PM

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
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251113.19 in reply to 251113.18
Date: 12/1/2013 8:44:02 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Canada Purple Haze BC
Nice try, it's a losing battle
there are none so blind as those who will not to see

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251113.20 in reply to 251113.19
Date: 12/1/2013 9:34:56 PM
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Very true.

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251113.21 in reply to 251113.19
Date: 12/1/2013 9:46:32 PM
Kitakyushu
ASL
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So what happens when a BB says that there are no sub-levels for potential?
I guess you will be the blind one.
Don't get me wrong, I like free thinkers who make good assumptions about things. But in the end...it's only an assumption. Not fact.

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251113.22 in reply to 251113.21
Date: 12/2/2013 4:12:04 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
With No BB saying anything right now
All we can go on are the facts that we have learned
which point in the direction stated,until proven otherwise.
You have been given statistical data pointed in one direction and have given back what to counter it?
It will be one thing to be wrong, quite possible, but another not to be open to possibilities.

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