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And the result was the title. And nothing you say will ever be able to take that away. Admitting when you are outperformed and/or defeated would be more polite, but whatever.

Is that why you whined on BB Brasil about the "absolutely absurd defeat" and how much you got screwed when the 1st game ended USA 81, Brasil 74?

The USA's goal was to qualify for the World Championships, period.

If you wanted to win a continental championship, more power to you, but we weren't going to risk having to play 2nd chance qualifiers to have a shot at a relatively meaningless title.

It sucked hard having to explain why we failed to advance out of the 1st round of the Worlds. I can only imagine how much harder it would have sucked to have to explain to a community why you didn't qualify directly to the Worlds because you Normalled the semifinal.

If you want to celebrate a win over us when we clearly much more interested in winning a semifinal than the final, go ahead.

Just don't forget that we beat you in a game on your home court that we actually did care about.

Last edited by Edju at 6/25/2008 12:18:39 PM

It's funny how you want to brag about a win in the group stage (which it was the one that was actually completely meaningless) and wants to say something about our win in the final... That's really ridiculous...

And I didn't have to explain anything to my community about losing a semi-final because we didn't lose. And if we chose to play normal on it is because we were convinced that we could and that we wouldn't lose. That's good decision making.

After all, we DID qualify to the World Championship AND we were the champions of Americas. You don't have to finish 2nd to go to the World Cup. The champion goes too. :D

But anyway, if you think the Americas Cup title is "meaningless" then I guess the title stayed in very good hands.

Last edited by raonne at 6/25/2008 12:29:19 PM

It was meaningless to us - qualifying for the Worlds was the only priority, and we simply were not going to risk not doing so for a continental title that doesn't really give us any tangible benefits other than a trophy (which definitely needs to happen).

The group stage win did have more meaning - it was for all intents and purposes a 2nd Round game even though it was contested in the 1st Round (with carryover results), and it helped us strive closer to our qualifying goals.

I mean, be proud you beat us - we beat Italy the week after they won the Worlds, and that was great, but we understand it for what it is - a scrimmage played the week after a truly meaningful game was played and they had CTed.

Same thing happened in the Americas final. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

P.S. You're cute when you're mad.

a scrimmage played the week after a truly meaningful game was played and they had CTed.

Same thing happened in the Americas final. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

hahaha

Don't you realize that saying that you didn't care about a game just because you couldn't win it is pathetic? Calling a TITLE meaningless just because you lost it...

If we had CTed the semi-final and you had been lucky in the final and beat us, I'm sure it would mean something to you. The attitude you have is the worst one a loser can possibly have.

You talk as if you've done great things, but you didn't win anything. We have a title.

You dare to say a TITLE is meaningless, when in fact that is the ultimate goal on buzzerbeater. To win Titles. If you watch soccer checkout the ongoing continental cup in Europe and see if that is "meaningless". The same for when Brasil won the Americas cup last year pounding 3x0 on Argentina in the final.

You just saying things don't make it true. The first round game WAS irrelevant since it made no difference in the end of the standings (we still finished 1st and you 2nd). So don't be ridiculous to say that meant more than the final.

And if you entered that competition with the "only" aim of being second place, then usa americans should be concerned. Brasil entered with the goal of being the Champions, and we accomplished that.

So seriously man, watch your mouth when you want to say **** about us.

Last edited by raonne at 6/25/2008 9:15:43 PM

As an American user who voted for JP for reelection, I fully support his decision on the game.

Who cares about winning the Americas championship? Certainly not me. The only thing it is good for is qualifying for the worlds. If you qualify for the worlds, you succeed. If you don't, you fail. Anything other than a CT int he semifinals is a ridiculous and arrogant move on the part of a manager in the Americas.

I don't agree with him on everything, but JP is right here. The finals match was a glorified scrimmage.

Well, then we will just have to agree to disagree. You think we are ridiculous and arrogant, and we thing you are ridiculous and a bad loser.

if you think your decision making was the correct and that our was ridiculous, then what can I say, we were the champions, we went to the world cup too (and we did much better there). So the facts are all there for anyone to see. All these things you guys are saying are just meant to diminish Brasil and our title, which will not be accomplished be any person can see how pathetic it is.

Like I said, this is just a difference of opinions. You guys are confusing the Americas Cup tournament with the WC Qualifying. If you just want to go to the WC, just play the qualifying tournament for it next season. The Americas Cup is its own competition, and if you don't care about it then you shouldn't even play it.

Go make your scrimmages and defend your imaginary belts that you awarded to yourself because you couldn't win anything real.

Your argument is essentially like the USA being excited about finishing in 1st place in CONCACAF qualifying over Mexico for the last World Cup. Big whoop.

In your effing face you dirty pile of cheating nut-grabbing diving overpaid losers!

Oops sorry, I'm still excited about USA finishing above Mexico in qualifying. Move on.

I'm not trying to diminish your title at all. It's tough to diminish something I didn't value in the first place. If you value it, by all means, proclaim its value to the BB world.

Just like it would be silly to do anything other than CT the semifinal, it would also be silly to not play in the Americas Cup. It is the primary means of qualifying for the Worlds. Yes, there is a secondary means, but I would be strongly against JP ignoring the primary means to qualification.

Your argument is essentially like the USA being excited about finishing in 1st place in CONCACAF qualifying over Mexico for the last World Cup. Big whoop.

There is a big difference. A Qualifying tournament is meant only to give teams spots int he World Cup, but a continental tournament is a tournament on its own, it has a title which is at stake, and it is NOT, by any means, meaningless. Titles are all you can win on Buzzerbeater.

And like I said a thousand times: the Champion goes to the World Cup too. So your whole argument is simply incorrect.

If we had lost in the semi-final (or had being not really far from that as we were), then you could say something. But that's not how it was. We worked hard, finished 1st, played a weaker team that we clearly could beat with a normal (since we beat them before with less effort and the difference between the teams was huge), so our decision was perfect.

I never said you did wrong by CTing your semi-final. If you felt you needed it to win, than you did perfectly right. What is unacceptable is you guys saying that our decision was ridiculous... Why would someone CT a game they don't need to CT to win? That's just dumb. That was the case for us, and we are definitely not dumb. In fact, we normalled a game in the second round precisely to make sure we would finish 1st of the group and have a weaker game in the semis. That's called: good strategy.

And stop acting like I'm the one trying to give value to something that has no value. No! The title has A LOT of value, it is actually the second most important title on Buzzerbeater (tied with the other continental titles, and only behind the WC title). What is happening here is YOU guys trying to take out the value of somethign that IS in fact really valuable, by definition.

Last edited by raonne at 6/25/2008 9:51:00 PM

Your argument is essentially like the USA being excited about finishing in 1st place in CONCACAF qualifying over Mexico for the last World Cup. Big whoop.

In your effing face you dirty pile of cheating nut-grabbing diving overpaid losers!

Oops sorry, I'm still excited about USA finishing above Mexico in qualifying. Move on.

Jajajajajaja!

Nothing is more pathetic than a loser saying he didn't want to win a game that he really couldn't win, and didn't win...