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76799.12 in reply to 76799.1
Date: 2/26/2009 12:41:45 PM
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I agree completely. Unfortunately the current design of the cup makes it quite uniinterresting and winning the cup (especially in small countries like Sweden) is anything but prestigious which is sad.

Two seasons ago I was lucky with the draw and could advance to the semifinals playing TIE in every game. This ment that I had a big advantage in the league just because of some luck in the drawing.

Currently the primary reason to stay in the cup for me is to be able to TIE and build enthusiasm for the league games (I know a lot others that feel the same). The cup in itself is pretty meaningless.

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76799.13 in reply to 76799.1
Date: 2/26/2009 1:29:24 PM
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This season in Italy there is a II vs. II and at least 4 II vs. III games in the first cup round.
On the other hand it is quite common to have bots still in the 4th-5th round.

My suggestion is to forbid bot vs. bot games, so that the big majority of them won't reach the second round and the competition will be fairer for everybody :)


I have II vs.II in the first round and my cup is already over. It's totally unfair - their should be "pools" like in some football competition for example pool1 teams from I and II playing against pool2 - teams from IV and V.

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76799.14 in reply to 76799.13
Date: 2/26/2009 1:46:45 PM
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there should be "pools"

Actually, this sounds like an interesting idea to me. They already do something like this in the NT games, so why not the domestic cups as well? Any opinions on this?

Edit: Actually, reading the previous post back to myself and then my reply, I'm actually suggesting a completely different thing, i.e. something similar to the NT games rather than the "pools" system which was proposed above. I think I prefer my suggestion over the "pools" one. Still, anyone else think it's a good idea?

Last edited by bazooka71 at 2/26/2009 1:50:37 PM

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76799.15 in reply to 76799.13
Date: 2/26/2009 1:47:16 PM
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Again, how it is "totally unfair"?

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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76799.16 in reply to 76799.15
Date: 2/26/2009 2:05:38 PM
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Again, how it is "totally unfair"?


All teams from my division got bots in first round and I am going out of the cup in the first round because almighty random gave me one of the best teams in my country and because my case is the only II vs II case in Lithuania. I think its unfair.

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76799.17 in reply to 76799.14
Date: 2/26/2009 2:29:49 PM
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Both proposals are a great improvement on todays system. I think I would prefer a system where at least the top 64 teams are seeded, such that the top two ranked teams cannot meet before the finals, the top four before the semifinals and so on (i.e. a standard tennis drawing). Bot teams should never be seeded.

As long as the cup becomes more of a competition and less of a lottery I am satistied though.

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76799.18 in reply to 76799.15
Date: 2/26/2009 3:26:44 PM
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Weell putting "luck is fair game" argument aside - are you serious?

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76799.19 in reply to 76799.18
Date: 3/3/2009 4:34:55 AM
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Same with me.
I´m playing in the 3rd and have to play against a team from the 2nd - it´s so annoying!

Do BB want to keep Bots instead of reals teams in the 3rd round? - why?

I can´t belive it and i really hope this is the last time it will happen!

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76799.20 in reply to 76799.19
Date: 3/3/2009 4:40:27 AM
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There are so many ways how to be annoyed by this game, I like that so much.

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76799.21 in reply to 76799.1
Date: 3/3/2009 4:46:06 AM
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If the cup was seeded (a horrible idea IMO) then you could theoretically eliminate the bots earlier if all humans were seeded first.

But isnt the idea of the cup that it can be a fairytale journey for some teams and an abrupt shortlived romance for others?

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76799.22 in reply to 76799.21
Date: 3/3/2009 8:07:19 AM
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If the cup was seeded (a horrible idea IMO) then you could theoretically eliminate the bots earlier if all humans were seeded first.

There is no need for the cup to be seeded (i agree it would be a bad idea). It's enough to make small adjustments to the draw mechanism. If there are N bots, you can impose for the first N matches of each round to have one (and only one) bot picked.

But isnt the idea of the cup that it can be a fairytale journey for some teams and an abrupt shortlived romance for others?

Without bot vs bot games there would be more active users (mainly from smaller teams) moving to the next rounds.
Unless you consider a 'fairytale journey' playing several games against a bot (where is the fun beside the money?) I don't see which teams would be penalized.

Again, I am fine with two teams from Div I playing each other in the first round of the cup. That's not the point of my suggestion.

Last edited by Newton07 at 3/3/2009 8:08:25 AM

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