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I have no idea what it looks like now just got back....

Nobody really knows: 2 seasons ago they put IS in the guard formula BUT they also increased bigs with OD and other secondaries. It is unclear if and how other secondaries for guards were impacted. Generally speaking, they increased secondary cost for most builds AND brought IS in the guards formula and increased the SF builds salary.

Of course, since big men were already more expensive, big men with high outside shooting and great outside skills increased the same or as much as the LI guards if you go by absolute numbers. It's unclear who won from this, because those great outside oriented big men are vital for outside tactics (people who have outside oriented teams said).

This season they increased salary across the board and it's unclear what they did with secondaries (hard to tell when almost every salary goes up some, even for players with really awful secondaries)




Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/22/2017 6:16:41 AM

You guys just keep critising ??? !!!!
Can you at least try to see a bigger picture and find a way to be constructive, please.
I love this game !!!

I simply clarified what happened in respect of salary, no need for the usual drama.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/21/2017 8:40:05 PM

You are right, sorry for the drama ;)

2 seasons ago
guards: IS increased? yes. other inside skills? Probably (no conclusive evidence due to lack of suitable examples).
big men: OD increased? yes! DR/HA? doesn't look like it. Other outside skills? Yes!!!
SFs have increased, unclear what caused it.

last season
everyone increased including guards with 90 outside skills and 7 inside skills (I'd need to find my own post to tell you exactly).

So, as you can imagine, it's not clear who got damaged the most salary-wise: inside or outside tactics (especially because big men +5% is not the same as guards +5%)

I'm not going to do a regression analysis based on Josef Ka formula to estimate the coefficients. CaptainTeemo said he tried to contact Sailorman several times but he didn't reply: a bit like me trying to get a reply from Marin on a bug...

Sailorman presumably has some routine setup or a spreasheet he already used to do the analysis in the past. I am able to do it myself, if I want , but I just don't have the motivation to spend time on it.

This exercise is likely to be a bit of a pain, because maybe also the basic coefficients need to be recalibrated, not just the weights of each skill. What we know is that the increases on secondary skills were visible from 'strong' or higher, it's unclear whether lower skills than 'strong' had an opposite effect (it looked like they did, although obviously guards with 17 or 18 IS had bigger jumps than guards with 1 IS had reductions), so I don't know if the basic formula coefficients were also modified slightly.

That said, for me the main thing was the confirmation that the cap coefficients did not change. EGM-Foto confirmed that publicly in Global and that was what I mostly cared about.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/23/2017 9:46:34 AM

My C (31801722) is similar to Robard's german NT player (the one who had x/17/17/17), but he has more inside skills all around and also crucially more outside skills (except outside shooting). You can see how his salary changed after the last 2 changes (without any training). 153k->167k.

The only reason he's not in the PF formulas is relatively low outside shooting (JS/JR) and the fact that he has over 65 inside skills, but I'd imagine PFs with even more outside skills than him would have had higher jumps.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/23/2017 9:54:24 AM