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250685.122 in reply to 250685.119
Date: 1/1/2014 2:47:29 AM
BC LionSnake
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Sorry, I don't see BIG advantage, nor should there be.
Players will not all of a sudden become magical.
You will get a boost not a miracle


i didnt need miracle, in my mind my team was allready better, he had HC advantage, but maybe i can blame tactics

Last edited by reps at 1/1/2014 2:48:50 AM

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250685.123 in reply to 250685.120
Date: 1/1/2014 7:03:44 AM
Młoty Stargard
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GDP is too strong

two games
(66238156) and (66238163)
in the second match bonuses = +1 ent and HCA
in the first and second match my stats defense are the same
so my one good prediction = 1 ent + HCA
two good predictions = 2 ent + 2xHCA?
but it isn't everything
opponent can predict two times wrong - sum bonuses = +4ent + 4xHCA? - it is crazy
GDP can change the result of +/-30 Points or more!

GDP is too strong

Last edited by darkonza at 1/1/2014 8:35:30 AM

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250685.124 in reply to 250685.123
Date: 1/1/2014 8:34:25 AM
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Except on the second game you also made an incorrect prediction, so it's actually two predictions that equal 1 enthusiasm + HCA. Which still seems a little too strong, but it's also a very small dataset at this point (and we don't know for example which PR specialties you may have been having). Hopefully more people will have similarly useful data that we can look at.

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250685.125 in reply to 250685.124
Date: 1/1/2014 8:50:03 AM
Młoty Stargard
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(1ent+HCA) it assumption minimum, maybe it is (1.9ent + HCA)
I don't know what had enthusiasm exactly in second game, 6 or more (max. 6.9)
in the first game for sure ent = 5

Last edited by darkonza at 1/1/2014 8:52:17 AM

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250685.126 in reply to 250685.125
Date: 1/1/2014 8:57:17 AM
Kitakyushu
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I think it is doing what it was intended to do.....You have to change up....the days of LI every game might be over. And that is a good thing. I think it is safer to guess INSIDE and FAST PACE every game..most people are still stuck in this mind set. Change is GOOD!!

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250685.127 in reply to 250685.126
Date: 1/1/2014 9:01:29 AM
Młoty Stargard
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change is good, but change is too strong

Last edited by darkonza at 1/1/2014 9:01:45 AM

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250685.128 in reply to 250685.123
Date: 1/1/2014 9:03:54 AM
Ghost Masters
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opponent can predict two times wrong - sum bonuses = +4ent + 4xHCA? - it is crazy :)


Think about this scenario:
One team plays: LI 3-2, predictions: outside fast
Second team plays: RnG 3-2, predictions outside slow

First team will get bonuses for predicting tactics, pace, choosing the right defense, other team would accordingly get penalty for wrong predictions and and choosing the wrong defense what is most important the second team would also get penalty for choosing non-dominant tactic. So from this example we can see that it is possible to get 7 bonuses for one team (not to mention HCA, ent and better GS). I am not saying it's good or bad, but I think it's still riskier to play tactics other than LI or LP.






Last edited by Ghost Master at 1/1/2014 9:07:41 AM

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250685.129 in reply to 250685.125
Date: 1/1/2014 9:20:43 AM
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(1ent+HCA) it assumption minimum, maybe it is (1.9ent + HCA)
I don't know what had enthusiasm exactly in second game, 6 or more (max. 6.9)
in the first game for sure ent = 5


Well, going by coachparrot, it'd be 6.3 enthusiasm.

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250685.131 in reply to 250685.130
Date: 1/1/2014 2:57:54 PM
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Another set by Codemasters:
Could you elaborate this a little more?
1) If I guess inside oriented tactic and guess is wrong, is it mine inside defense rating which is lower or both defense ratings? And pp100 higher for opponents players and especially for outside players?
2) If I guess inside oriented tactic and guess is correct, again, my defense ratings are higher? What is impact for opponents pp100, all lower, only for inside players?

Another question, is the impact similar (size) for guessing orientation and pace? Is there some kind of bonus for guessing both (orientation and pace) right?

1) Just the outside defense rating. Pp100 should be higher for outside players of the opponents due to your lowered outside defense.
2) Yes, your inside defense ratings are higher. Opponents pp100 is lower only for inside players.
We do not want to disclose the focus vs pace impact ratio at this moment. We believe there should be some things left to our managers to find out for themselves. The same applies the to the bonus question.

From another part of forum. It can helps think abou it.

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250685.132 in reply to 250685.127
Date: 1/1/2014 4:02:51 PM
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I don't think it's strong. It will impact only close games like the ones you had in B3 finals. But if everyone keeps playing LI and everyone guess right (fast+inside), there's no point to GDP, right?

I will play LI the whole season in my league where I'm favourite to win it all. I expect everyone to guess correctly against me and I reckon it still won't help. Take a look at my yesterday's game: The guy played 2-3, guessed correctly and put more enth. (I had HCA though). He lost by only 18 points because my subs suck, but he was -29 at end of 3rd quarter. His match ratings suggest he should have strong game against me...

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