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1228.125 in reply to 1228.124
Date: 3/20/2008 5:12:33 PM
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I don't agree with you, especially not in cup games. This gives less skilled teams more chances to win, which belongs in a cup where you will always see cupfighters.

Check out the Dutch Soccer Cup this year for example. The best teams were out before the quarter finals. One of the worst Dutch Soccer teams in the first league made it to the semi's, where they lost with penaltys after a 2-2 after 120 minutes.

CT has it's charm, so it should stay to give the smaller teams more chance to win a game vs a bigger and better team. Otherwise you will never see cupfighters here.
If only TIE and Normal will be there, you will win more because you belong to the better teams, so it would be better for you. But I do think it adds an extra dimension to the game, which should not be removed.

You can only win a cup if you are lucky enough no-one will CT against you. If you do it yourself, you will be gone the next round, so no one wanting that cup will do it, but teams who know they can't make it might CT just to get 1 round more, and it totally sucks.


And I do think this is more an emotional statement than something else. Which might be logic because you just lost a game. Ok it sucks to get an opponent who CT's, but it does requir some skill (and luck) to pick out the right moment for your CT's. Your statement is something like only a CT in the final is valid, which I think is too 'heavy' if you understand what I mean ;)


Last edited by BB-Patrick at 3/20/2008 5:13:41 PM

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1228.126 in reply to 1228.125
Date: 3/20/2008 5:18:38 PM
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Totally agree with you (=

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1228.127 in reply to 1228.125
Date: 3/20/2008 5:22:33 PM
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As someone who is generally against the CT, TIE system I tend to agree with you on this point. Using CT in the cup is a neat feature to allow smaller teams to go for cup glory. I think it differs from CT in the play-offs because using CT does not just hurt your chances in the next round but also damages your league chances. If a team is willing to sacrifice their chances of promotion for a cup run they should have that option.

That said I do think CT is too powerful a tool right now in general but hopefuly that will be settled in the ME updates this week.

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1228.129 in reply to 1228.117
Date: 3/20/2008 8:23:24 PM
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1. VikWarriors (USA) - 33 flags
2. Salisbury Auerbachs (USA) - 30 flags
3. Vitoria Shadow Pandas (BRASIL) - 29 flags
4. Wake Forest (USA) - 28 flags
5. Vitoria Devils (BRASIL) - 26 flags
5. ESV Laim (Germany) - 26 flags
7. The Tasmanien Eagles (AUSTRALIA) - 23 flags
8. Granada Stars (SPAIN) - 21 flags
8. Zurich Blues (SWITZERLAND) - 21 flags
8. Walking Through This Door (USA) - 21 flags
11. Ultra Nuggets (PORTUGAL) - 21 flags
12. Bruins (USA) - 18 flags
13. Asgaards Gudar (SWEDEN) - 17 Flags


..actualized now :)

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1228.130 in reply to 1228.125
Date: 3/21/2008 6:16:30 AM
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I also agree with you to some point.

However I must clarify 2 things: First, I am not sure he CT-ed, he might as well have played normal, he played at home...

Second, what I meant with the post is that a team CT-ing will have 99% chance he will get kicked out next round (unless his opponent CT-ed too the previous game), so in fact CT does NOT help smaller teams win the cup, it only helps them advance 1 round, then exit.
Shout CT work well for teams, even lesser, to be able to get all the way to the cup that would be fine with me. As it is now CT is a kamikaze game to gain just 1 more game, and money, not to get to the cup...
Hope you understand what I meant.

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1228.131 in reply to 1228.129
Date: 3/21/2008 6:25:49 AM
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1. VikWarriors (USA) - 33 flags
2. Salisbury Auerbachs (USA) - 30 flags
3. Vitoria Shadow Pandas (BRASIL) - 29 flags
4. Wake Forest (USA) - 28 flags
5. Vitoria Devils (BRASIL) - 26 flags
5. ESV Laim (Germany) - 26 flags
7. The Tasmanien Eagles (AUSTRALIA) - 23 flags
8. Granada Stars (SPAIN) - 21 flags
8. Zurich Blues (SWITZERLAND) - 21 flags
8. Walking Through This Door (USA) - 21 flags
11. Ultra Nuggets (PORTUGAL) - 21 flags
12. Bruins (USA) - 18 flags
13. Asgaards Gudar (SWEDEN) - 17 Flags
14. Crack SFC (ITALY) - 13 flags

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1228.132 in reply to 1228.130
Date: 3/21/2008 6:40:32 AM
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Yes I do understand, but there are some situations where it might work out.

For example when a team CT's with a high enthusiasm they still aren't chanceless for the next round, or when a team knows you are the biggest team to defeat, and expects a easiers team the next round. You can CT in the cup and then TIE a few times in the league (if you want to get the cup and don't care that much about the few league games that week), then the CT in the cup could be really effective.
This works every round except in the week where there are 2 cup matches.

I agree with you on the playoff part though.

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1228.133 in reply to 1228.131
Date: 3/21/2008 7:01:12 AM
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1. VikWarriors (USA) - 33 flags
2. Salisbury Auerbachs (USA) - 30 flags
2. Vitoria Shadow Pandas (BRASIL) - 30 flags
4. Wake Forest (USA) - 29 flags
5. Vitoria Devils (BRASIL) - 27 flags
5. ESV Laim (Germany) - 26 flags
7. The Tasmanian Eagles (AUSTRALIA) - 23 flags
8. Granada Stars (SPAIN) - 22 flags
8. Zurich Blues (SWITZERLAND) - 22 flags
8. Walking Through This Door (USA) - 22 flags
11. Ultra Nuggets (PORTUGAL) - 21 flags
12. Bruins (USA) - 19 flags
13. Asgaards Gudar (SWEDEN) - 18 Flags
14. Crack SFC (ITALY) - 13 flags

Updated the flags.

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1228.134 in reply to 1228.133
Date: 3/22/2008 10:30:27 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
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#15 flags... goin' to malaysia next week... it will be really hard to get to the top... but I'll try to.

good chase everybody

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1228.135 in reply to 1228.134
Date: 3/22/2008 10:35:16 AM
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1. VikWarriors (USA) - 33 flags
2. Salisbury Auerbachs (USA) - 30 flags
2. Vitoria Shadow Pandas (BRASIL) - 30 flags
4. Wake Forest (USA) - 29 flags
5. Vitoria Devils (BRASIL) - 27 flags
5. ESV Laim (Germany) - 26 flags
7. The Tasmanian Eagles (AUSTRALIA) - 23 flags
8. Granada Stars (SPAIN) - 22 flags
8. Zurich Blues (SWITZERLAND) - 22 flags
8. Walking Through This Door (USA) - 22 flags
11. Ultra Nuggets (PORTUGAL) - 21 flags
12. BBC Gembo Borgerhout (BELGIUM) - 20 flags
13. Bruins (USA) - 19 flags
14. Asgaards Gudar (SWEDEN) - 18 Flags
15. Crack SFC (ITALY) - 13 flags

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