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From: MJ

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181078.125 in reply to 181078.124
Date: 4/23/2011 11:43:30 PM
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It depends. To use an EPL example, if Blackpool relegates its fans won't stop supporting the team, but if West Ham or Blackburn relegate it will be considered a disaster. To fans, success is measured against expectations.


you mean new promoted in compare with old ones. true? or smalls vs bigs?


If first, I would agree. even would say they will have more fan support! 'cause they want to repeat it again.
maybe we need some more features to make a more similar virtual managing career ;)
for example if a new promoted team that competed well in new league but relegates, still keep its fan support. but how to measure "well competing"?

If second, I would say we have not clear small/big parameters here but budget amount! e.g. a team that has enough money to compete well but avoid then lose much more fan support after relegation :)

how is it? :)

Last edited by MJ at 4/23/2011 11:49:31 PM

From: RiseandFire

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181078.126 in reply to 181078.125
Date: 4/24/2011 12:17:25 AM
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Newly promoted vs. old, yeah. But small vs. big budget could play a part. It comes down to this: How do fans measure success?

I agree though, these are all things that should have been considered before the implementation of the salary floor.

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181078.127 in reply to 181078.126
Date: 4/24/2011 2:44:14 PM
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Seems like all the veteran players are fine with the salary floor, while the upstart newer players who can't compete with the vet's monster stadiums, etc, can't.


I'll just leave it at that.

Last edited by Weather at 4/24/2011 2:45:40 PM

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Date: 4/24/2011 3:54:18 PM
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As i said before. 3-4 seasons ago only top veterans teams were able to afford top end players. Now, average 2nd div.team can. I see some managers find veterans teams untouchable but draft system help them pretty much in considering whether to promote or not. I think 1 promoter is not enough to make game more fun for crowds. I see the system could change from two 8-teams div. To f.ex. Four 5-teams div. Where no of total games would be kept (2 promoters 4 demoters). But thats different story.. So in this system i see this feature reasonable.

Last edited by LA-zajino at 4/25/2011 2:40:06 AM

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From: Jay_m

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181078.130 in reply to 181078.129
Date: 4/25/2011 7:44:27 AM
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My only problem was that I sold a couple of players just before the news because I could win my division anyway. If I had known about the floor, I would have kept the players and won by 40 instead of 10.

From: Fresh24

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181078.131 in reply to 181078.127
Date: 4/25/2011 8:34:22 AM
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That's a generalization that you seem to have pulled out of thin air. I'm a relatively new team that is fine with the floor (just wish it was announced earlier).

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181078.132 in reply to 181078.115
Date: 4/25/2011 6:05:43 PM
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I'd still like to know, how does the upstart team with no chance to stick in their new league not lose fan support the following season?

Instead of preventing tanking, you should have rewarded competing. Stajan is a good example of this, but there are dozens, probably hundreds every season - the well-managed team that wins its weak league and promotes into a strong league, where their arena is too small and the players too weak, and inevitably gets relegated despite competing every game against far stronger and more established competition.

In real life promotion/relegation scenarios, fans understand the reality of these situations and stand with their team. In BB, fans deem the season a failure and doom the team to financial ruin. This is what made tanking financially feasible, of course - if you're going to take the hit, you might as well take as much money as you can with you.

I feel like this idea (preventing tankers for the good of the league) is halfway developed, and should not have been implemented until the other half (rewarding competitors and giving them a road to profitability) was complete.

Can a GM or BB respond to this? A few managers who I joined the game with are facing this exact situation, as are hundreds more, I'd imagine. It's a bit shocking that the floor could suddenly send a large number of teams into relative ruin, because they dared to be successful.

From: RiseandFire

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181078.135 in reply to 181078.134
Date: 4/25/2011 8:57:47 PM
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This makes some sense, but it also removes winning as the singular goal that it should be. IRL teams that promote through a league structure don't get penalized if their arena doesn't keep up witht the teams success. There may be a financial penalty, but nothing that indirectly affects fan support.

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