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+1 in agreement of Marot, who is from a big country. As a member of a smaller country, I am totally happy with the new changes. We lose out in TV contracts, but have the opportunity to make it up in terms of merchandise. The subtle move to promote the local NT scene is commendable. Great job BBs!

Do you think that it is right when 3.division teams have same level of players as 1.division teams?

There is nothing wrong with a division 3 team having one player of your level.
But your logic is flawed, a division 3 teams with the same level of players as you will not be in Division 3 for long.

you want us to release the change before we said we would?

we won't do that because we need to give teams time to prepare for this, we don't want to surprise people with a rule change like this. It will be released at the start of next season, its affect would be very minimal if released now anyway, the idea will be that salaries will not be changed dramatically by this new rule in terms of instantaneous change, but the evolution of salaries will change. Top players in the game have been making more and more each season, that growth of top level salary will slow/stop.

regarding whether this applies ot season salary..
what other salary is there to consider?

i would wanna know about the future salary updates. will it be like "the club got 5mio from selling players so they can pay their other players more?" on what does the formula depend?

i also think that the merchandise money from bik is a joke. we have no nba here, obviously bbb is something like the playoffs of the nba and when the finalist, a team that would be comparable to the lakers, celtics, cavs, magic has some of the best players of the world on their roster, he should earn more.
i agree though that a czech player that would make it to the starting 5 will draw more attention and sell more. would be the same in our city with a local player.

every season salaries are updated, in the past, they were growing one way and had a specific relationship to player skills.. that relationship is going to change... there will be no extra income explicitly given, the salary formula will change, that is all.

he does earn more, he's a good team, his arena sells out... to argue that he doesn't earn more than weaker teams is silly... you want him to earn EVEN more.. its a question of scale, not absolutes, lets take this argument to the next level and argue why the best teams should earn EVEN more than they do now.. or earn LESS than they earn now relative to weaker teams... does anyone have a guiding principle in their mind as to how the spread of income should be balanced? should it be 10 gazillion dollars different? 100K different?

hm yea i think im convinced. probably a good direction. i want more german players in my team too..

but how will the formula change? can i buy players that are close to the max i could afford and train them abit further lets say from 60k salary to more than 100k without paying 40k more next season? or will he freeze at 100? will the best bigman still cost you 300k and the best guards 100k ?

it is right when 3.division teams have same level of players as 1.division teams?

we don't and we never will
but at least now i can keep my players

Last edited by mark_lenders at 9/18/2009 11:37:18 AM

this is getting into the formula, which we aren't going to reveal.

hmmmm, my arguments are silly .... but I must to cry about your pre-season testing primary, testing by your presentment is perfect, must be teached all the world ... :-D :-D :-D ...

summary:
I have fewer income from TV than other best teams on BB-world (except BC Hostivař) :-)
I have fewer income from merchandise than worse teams in my league

yes, I am silly when I think that this is not fair ....


edit: I am silly when I pay money for your non-profesional product (I don´t mean economy changes, but for delaying in schedule, non-testing, etc. ) only ....






Last edited by bik_76 at 9/18/2009 12:20:30 PM

ohya but please tell me if i can train my players with huge salary without being scared of not being able to afford them next season. i dont wanna plan my training carelessly in concern of my finances

I have no idea what you are saying now, but I gather its insulting me.

So in summary, I ask you to make reasonable arguments that have balance, and you insult me.

I think your objections are to the large/small country debate.

Large countries will say the only reason you got to be the best in BBB was because you were in a small country and had no competition and so were able to build a very good team, when managers who were working just as hard and are just as smart in larger countries couldn't create the kind of team you did.

You being from a smaller country think that a D1 team in your country should be treated the same a a D1 team in Spain.

We decided that we would make things skewed a bit towards the overall competition level in a division, so that competition within a division would be tighter. This of course means that the best teams from stronger countries are getting more money than the best teams from weaker countries, regardless to whether that specific team is "better" or "worse." What you say is true, but we still think this is a better way of doing things, than letting you completely dominate your small countries league and making it difficult for anybody competing with you to ever catch up. I understand you don't like that tradeoff, but it was a conscious choice we made with a specific goal in mind.

We are not professionals, we are not well paid, we work part time, we make mistakes, we try our very best to fix them. Testing sucked this last season I agree, its also hard to test things thoroughly with a very small staff and a huge buzzerbeater universe.

Hey you are doing an incredibly great work, part time. Thank you!