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155342.126 in reply to 155342.125
Date: 8/31/2010 12:36:22 PM
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i think his getting at you shouldnt be balled for your thoughts on a matter.

though considering the only people that know things for sure are the bb's any post on here which is not directly from information given by the bb's is only someones thoughts i still feel the more helpful posts should get balled.



Last edited by zyler at 8/31/2010 12:36:56 PM

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155342.127 in reply to 155342.123
Date: 8/31/2010 12:42:14 PM
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Someone shouldn't have to say "in my opinion" in every post they make.


True. But if making posts in the help (newbie) forum, as an experienced (and high balled) user, people are going to put a lot of weight into your comments. Especially comments like: "training isn't really worth it", without giving any context.



I think it is quite clear that I am giving an opinion.


I do not have the clarity that you have on that one. In my eyes, it looked like you were putting it out there as a statement of fact.

Do you agree?


I really do not have enough information to say anything one way or another on the issue, at least for the specifics of your team. However, if we are talking globally and not putting a time limit on anything, I completely disagree. I still think training is the 1st path to success in this game, even if the market has lost a lot of value.

As for your specific situation, I am not sure. But you gave some example about spending x dollars on trainees and only getting y dollars back. Why not spend $0 on a really low potential 19-20 year old, short player with a few guard skills and mediocre outside d. Take his outside d to proficient (maybe 10 weeks training?). I think you could make around 200k on such a move, probably more than you could make training FTs and stamina. And if the market improves at all, maybe you make even more money (really, can the market get any worse at this point?).

Anyhow, that's my last off-topic post for the day. ;-)

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155342.128 in reply to 155342.3
Date: 8/31/2010 2:22:12 PM
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The fan survey will be restored to what it was before.


A suggested upgrade, if you are planning to keep the system as is for a while... Change it so we can tell which posts we have already "balled". I just tried to give you a ball for a post but I guess it was already given, since your # of balls did not increase.

And also allow us to remove balls if we want. I might change my mind and decide to take your balls away. ;-)

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155342.129 in reply to 155342.128
Date: 8/31/2010 2:23:47 PM
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155342.130 in reply to 155342.127
Date: 9/1/2010 12:37:15 AM
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True. But if making posts in the help (newbie) forum, as an experienced (and high balled) user, people are going to put a lot of weight into your comments. Especially comments like: "training isn't really worth it", without giving any context.


If I had said in my opinion training isn't really worth it at the moment, would that have been better?

In my eyes, it looked like you were putting it out there as a statement of fact.

I think that the way I said it indicated that it is an opinion. Perhaps I wasn't clear though so I apologise.


As for your specific situation, I am not sure. But you gave some example about spending x dollars on trainees and only getting y dollars back. Why not spend $0 on a really low potential 19-20 year old, short player with a few guard skills and mediocre outside d. Take his outside d to proficient (maybe 10 weeks training?). I think you could make around 200k on such a move, probably more than you could make training FTs and stamina. And if the market improves at all, maybe you make even more money (really, can the market get any worse at this point?).


Okay consider this: I buy 3 cheap low potential young trainees with mediocre OD. Lets say I spend 10 weeks training outside defence to get it to proficient. And lets say I sell each of the players for 200k profit. That is 600k over 10 weeks of training. That is 60k a week profit from training. Take away 10 to 15k for the salary each week for those 3 trainees. That leaves 45k a week profit from training. However, I want to train my draftees that I get in the draft, so I can't pick up a player now because I won't be able to train much at all between now and the time I get my draftees.
Also, 45k a week isn't much. Especially if it means that I have to play the trainees in my league games, which means I will probably lose those games.
So in my opinion, for my team, I am far better of training free throws, stamina and gameshape for my older players and concentrate on winning all my league games to jump in to 5th place, and then list all my players for 1k during the week before playoffs.
I think I would make a lot more money doing it this way, but this is just my opinion.

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155342.132 in reply to 155342.131
Date: 9/1/2010 12:47:53 AM
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Fair enough. Do you mind giving an example so that I can try to avoid it.

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155342.134 in reply to 155342.133
Date: 9/1/2010 2:37:22 AM
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For many new teams, even without NT prospects, single position is the best choice.

That is in your opinion though. And in that thread people seemed to agree with the opinion I gave.
Oh well, people can either take the advice I give in a thread, or they are free to ignore it.
I'm just trying to help.

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155342.136 in reply to 155342.135
Date: 9/1/2010 2:57:52 AM
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Beanerz and Scipio agreed.
And I think iwen thinks 2 position is better based on his post there.
I suppose I overestimated the strength of the NBBA then.
If division 1 teams don't have 40k starters for all 5 positions then I am quite surprised with the result as I think a lot of div 2 teams have close to that.
Consider my team,
PG: 29k
SG: 33k
SF: 13k
PF: 50k
C: 59k

If division 1 teams don't have a huge improvement on that then I am surpirsed.

Last edited by Naker Virus at 9/1/2010 2:58:28 AM

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