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From: Soel

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72142.129 in reply to 72142.126
Date: 2/25/2009 10:00:42 AM
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I think it's fair for an individual to say they don't care about the national teams but i disagree with the opinion that no one cares about it. It is an important side of the game to many, i feel that to a degree players should have more pride in their national team. It's also my opinion that there needs to be a incentives for players to develop home grown talent to help out your national coaches.

It's completely fair to say as an individual that you're not concerned about the national team, and the future of the tournamanets. I think many people, and the BB's, feel it is a concern and there needs to be some incentive to help it improve. The national tournaments are largely ignored by many, and maybe the designers want players to get more involved with it.

So yes, in my opinion it's a problem that does need addressing.

From: docend24

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Date: 2/25/2009 10:04:57 AM
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You do understand that a team from small country will have more revenue due to no competition thus making him able to create a better team that the guy in the big league because he wins everything nomatter what -> Fan survey is always maxxed.

And the problem is?

If he/she doesn't improve the team on TL and thus not competing with major clubs, you shouldn't bother.
If such a team hits TL and compete with major clubs' bids it will pay more in salaries and if the team would keep doing this the "problem" would balance itself.
If such a team play in BBB, he/she would need those players. Since manager can't choose a country to play in, he shouldn' be fined for where he/she plays. If he plays with bots, inferior teams in top league it reduces the fun a bit, so it is only legitimate to get a slight advantage to compete in BBB, actually face a real competition somewhere.

And I think you are wrong because there are surely small, middle-sized countries where several team seriously competes in top division. How is supposed to be fair for them?

From: docend24

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72142.131 in reply to 72142.117
Date: 2/25/2009 10:06:50 AM
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Actually the only benefit from such a change could be a possibility that the gap between the best and richest and others within a country could be smaller. I don't think that legitimate the change as a whole.

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Date: 2/25/2009 10:09:39 AM
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I think it's fair for an individual to say they don't care about the national teams but i disagree with the opinion that no one cares about it. It is an important side of the game to many, i feel that to a degree players should have more pride in their national team. It's also my opinion that there needs to be a incentives for players to develop home grown talent to help out your national coaches.

It's completely fair to say as an individual that you're not concerned about the national team, and the future of the tournamanets. I think many people, and the BB's, feel it is a concern and there needs to be some incentive to help it improve. The national tournaments are largely ignored by many, and maybe the designers want players to get more involved with it.

So yes, in my opinion it's a problem that does need addressing.


Why are they ignored?

They are pretty much a forgone conclusion if the draw keeps the big guns apart.

Its laughable that people moan that certain club leagues dont have the right level of competition but its the same for the NT's.

Thats why no matter how patriotic you are unless your'e in with the right crowd or kiss butt you have to look at the small user base nations and pretend you've been a fan our their history and culture and food etc for years and years... please vote for me!!


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72142.133 in reply to 72142.124
Date: 2/25/2009 10:12:29 AM
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Reading about how prospects ends in hands of bots or unresponsive teams - maybe a patch to that change could be creating same number of divisions and levels for each country and all (good enough) prospects drafted by bots would end up at TL as free agents. For obvious reasons.

Yes, it would crippled the market but that's apparently not an issue since extensive filters are already implemented. At least it would give a fair chance to anybody draftwise and nationwise.

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72142.134 in reply to 72142.133
Date: 2/25/2009 10:29:16 AM
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I hope this doesnt excite countries that enjoy farming NT players to exploit and build more local players.

I honestly have no idea if farm teams exist or whether they even can. I did notice certain countries when i was actively monitoring the transfer list that seemed to just build players then turn bot (cough Romania cough) has that had any effect or was that just co-incidental?

From: Kukoc

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72142.135 in reply to 72142.133
Date: 2/25/2009 10:32:46 AM
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What lol? Draft is full of crap usually if all of the users in the "small" countrys could actually pick the players in draft then all of the good ones would be taken by the human players anyway. I have a thought let's just TL all players generated by draft and then let the users bid for them. Let's call it the money draft and all of those not bid on will go to retirement right away!:D

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72142.136 in reply to 72142.135
Date: 2/25/2009 10:39:40 AM
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I don't understand well the innovation about salary
An example:In japan there are two teams with the same salaries and the same players
TEAM A with only japanese players
TEAM B with only players of other nationalities

These two teams don't train their players,and theri players aren't old so the skill and the salaries salary don't change

What's the situation with the new system?
TEAM B have the same salary and TEAM A pay 10% less
or
TEAM A have the same salary and TEAM B pay 10% more ?




Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/25/2009 10:40:52 AM

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Date: 2/25/2009 10:42:11 AM
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What's the situation with the new system?
TEAM B have the same salary and TEAM A pay 10% less of salaries
or
TEAM A pay the same salary and TEAM B pay 10% more of salaries?

There is no indication at all as of now whether the suggested change will be indeed related to salary. I don't think this is an accident.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 2/25/2009 10:43:56 AM

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From: brian
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Date: 2/25/2009 10:42:38 AM
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Everyone from a smaller country decrying this as an attack to small countries is missing quite a few points here, the main one is:

If there's more quality players in a larger country, there's also more quality teams to compete with for there services. You might save more on salary, but you might pay more to buy them.

Assuming this is a 20% tax like in HT it would be a small adjustment to the un-level playing field tilted towards small countries. Even with this change I'd take the offer to switch to a smaller country in a heartbeat.

Oh, and it seems Charles comments are trying to point out it wont even be this bad for smaller countries and we can't even be sure what the change will be. Feel free to continue overreacting and missing the big picture though.

Last edited by brian at 2/25/2009 10:45:17 AM

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72142.139 in reply to 72142.75
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over the season i have seen many people moan and it looks like these people finally getting what they want...


You mean a change was implemented for the majority? How unfair :)

If a smaller country has to pay less for the same foriegn transfer as a big country, wont this offset the difference in # of players somewhat? Being from a larger country base, I will still have to buy foriegn players if I want to compete, and at a higher price than other teams I am competing on the TL for. Does everyone really think that good players for an inexpensive price were hard to find with the old search criteria? Is it believed that a large number of active users where just to lazy to actually find a good deal on the TL? Wow.

@Superfly Guy-Are we back to talking about how a change affects the top 100 teams again? BB3 is an elitist tournament for the very top teams in a game with over 45,000 teams.

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