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If you're taking that argument, then you're essentially saying that you need to essentially punish sellers.

I'd rather see three minutes myself, but arguing that it costs more money to have 5 minutes isn't really germane to the conversation, as most of us have probably benefitted from it as sellers at some point.

exactly!!

the fact that in the 5 minutes new buyers come along and start bidding simply means that the player didn't reach it's value yet!!

What is trying to be achieved here is that potential buyers will not get enough time to see a buy, and get no chance to bid anymore. This should be avoided. The final bid should only stay when no one else wants to bid any higher.

I still don't get it for LA-Damena, he has enough to spend but is anoyed by the time, then why don't he bid much higher to start with, so no one will overbid? It would take 5 minutes, not 30.

I understand the seller's perspective but I this perspective is the one to be primarily considered or that the player has not yet reached his value. Players don't have a fixed value, it variates depending on several things, and one of them is the time where the auction ends.

Giving long extensions to the sales and allowing new bidders to come in after the auction was already scheduled to be over is a huge disadvantage to buyers and a not deserved advantage to sellers.

And let's not forget the whole point which is that nobody wants to be over 30-45 minutes to buy a player.

I still don't get it for LA-Damena, he has enough to spend but is anoyed by the time, then why don't he bid much higher to start with, so no one will overbid? It would take 5 minutes, not 30.

you want us to overbid to cover up for a flaw in the game? I definetely do not agree with that. Now I am personaly even mroe convinced: Time extensions should be smaller, period.

Noone likes to spend $300.000 in a player when it can cost $100.000

Here's my solution. Don't spend $300k if you can get the same skills for $100k.

:)

Edited by dhoff (2/4/2008 5:17:22 PM CET)

Last edited by dhoff at 2/4/2008 5:17:20 PM

HT pulls off the TL system with a 3 min extension and I don't think I have ever seen a long pronounced discussion about it being too long or too short, or that buyers and/or sellers are being disadvantaged by it, in 3 years.

I'm on the 3 minute extension band-wagon after seeing it work quite well in HT and another soccer-sim I play. 5 minutes just draws out the process longer than is really necessary, IMO.

Personally, I don't care whether a player costs 300k or 100k, I'll stop bidding when I'm good and ready. But I'm not going to bid more than I need to in an attempt to make the auction end faster and drive up the price, and it's a HUGE pain to sit there and bid on the same for for 45 minutes only to let him go when his price gets out of reach.

I agree, there's no sense in wasting time.

I tend to think that, on average, players will go for the same price regardless of whether there are 3- or 5-minute intervals. If that's the case (and I assume that people will disagree) then 3 minutes will save everyone time and hurt no one.

I wouldn't advise that we go lower than 3 minutes, though, as I think it's important to have time to react once you've been outbid.

I agree with this. The main problem is that some jerks wait until the last minute of the 5 minutes to bid again just to string it out in the hopes that the other person will forget or something, which is ridiculously annoying.

I agree with this. The main problem is that some jerks wait until the last minute of the 5 minutes to bid again just to string it out in the hopes that the other person will forget or something, which is ridiculously annoying.

ha....when i used to trade a lot you sometimes had to do this (sad but true.) i also liked the timed pleas you used to get in your BB mail with 2 mins to go..... I really need him... (then 2 mins later he was TL at twice the price!)

so let the fun continue.... most bigger teams now will only be fighting for the top players that appear as they have the money. Most top Div temas probably wont be looking at players with 6k wages and below for much longer and the transfer deflation we have seen in recent weeks will mean people playing petty games for players worth less than 250k...

as someone said.... you continue til the price is too high for you to carry on...

I still don't get it for LA-Damena, he has enough to spend but is anoyed by the time, then why don't he bid much higher to start with, so no one will overbid? It would take 5 minutes, not 30.

you want us to overbid to cover up for a flaw in the game? I definetely do not agree with that. Now I am personaly even mroe convinced: Time extensions should be smaller, period.

I don't want anyone to overbid. Just bid your price, period.
no overbidding, nor underbidding.

What everyone, who wants to reduce the time, wants is that they could underbid and get the player because other bidders get less time to react.

I say again, as long as players bid again, the price for the player is not reached.

There are realy only 2 ways to bid correctly here: either hope you get a player prety cheap, and just bid enough to have the high bid, but expect it to take time, since chances are big someone else will bid too.
Or bid a decent price to start with, bid again maybe 1 or max 2 times up to your high bid. This can only take 15 mins max!!

If you can't stop bidding when you reach your max, you're not doing anything too good, if you don't want to spend time, and your max bid is 300 k, but you bid 100k, then 110k then 120k then 130k,... you are doning not so great either...

3 minutes extension instead of 5 indeed will shorten the process, but there is no need to shorten it this way, you can shorten it by much more just by starting with a decent bid...

shortening the 5 minutes will only harm the sellers. Bidders can either take their time, or bid high enough to begin with, but ofcourse never higher than you intend to pay for the player.