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1533.13 in reply to 1533.10
Date: 10/6/2007 12:21:59 AM
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I kind of agree with Raonne, I think accusations of cheating should be reported to the BB's or the GM's and not made publicly in the forums. In this case it might be 100% true, but in the future, I sure its wouldn't always be.

Steve

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Date: 10/6/2007 12:36:23 AM
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I agree with this as well, but I see this present case a big problem, because there is a very good player who will be permanently lost if this purchase is allowed to take place. Plus, if a human team buys the guy there is money they'd never be able to recoup from the inflated price.


As far as tools go, a fairly simple tool would be to run a query that compares transfer prices to total skill level. When a total skill level is less than fifteen and the bid/sale price is 500K there is very obviously a problem.


Edited 10/6/2007 12:40:40 AM by stogey23

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Date: 10/6/2007 3:14:29 AM
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pretty sure I heard something like this was either being implemented or was implemented in 1st season

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1533.16 in reply to 1533.14
Date: 10/6/2007 5:08:01 PM
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I agree with this as well, but I see this present case a big problem, because there is a very good player who will be permanently lost if this purchase is allowed to take place.

Maybe a solution for this would be to put all his players on sale (for $0) when a team is banned for cheating.

Plus, if a human team buys the guy there is money they'd never be able to recoup from the inflated price.

Well, for this I just think that if you think the player's value is less then what people are bidding on him, just stop bidding. If you payed more then u wanted for him that's your responsability. And if you think there is a cheater bidding on him, report him and expect to buy the player later when the team is banned (if they implement my previous suggestion).

What do you guys think ?

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Date: 10/6/2007 5:12:46 PM
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I completely agree to you

From: Joecorp

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Date: 10/6/2007 5:22:54 PM
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The only problem with listing all the team's players is that it might screw with the economy of the game in the long term. Obviously they won't all sell for $1000 so that team leaves the game with what might end up being alot of money which effects the balance of the game's economy. Unless that money can be fed back into the economy somehow, we might end up with a Hattrick style crash further down the road.

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Date: 10/6/2007 6:36:12 PM
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I saw somethings like this and wrote to gm, but i'm still waiting for the answer

Status: Open (awaiting response)
Last Updated: 24/09/2007 10.32.03
Claimed By: Nobody

A little over a week ago, I posted a thread about a terrible player being bought for 670K - a clear example of cheating. Now the team that profited from the cheating is using that money to buy a very good player on the TL, Serif Çeri (776482)

I understand that it's sometimes not possible to stop a cheater right away, but here is an example of how doing nothing is not an option either. Some legitimate team is going to have to get into a bidding war with a cheater to buy this player OR even worse the player will be lost to the cheating team.

Can't TL activity at least be frozen for suspected cheaters to avoid this from happening? This is an urgent issue, as this player closes in the next 24 hours.

From: stogey23

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1533.20 in reply to 1533.19
Date: 10/6/2007 7:21:30 PM
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Did he dissappear? I can't find the player

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From: Vikman

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1533.21 in reply to 1533.19
Date: 10/6/2007 7:23:58 PM
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The only response you would get is that we received it. All the tickets are read even if no one claims them.

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he is in this team: Jundiaí Basquete Clube
for 720k..


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1533.23 in reply to 1533.12
Date: 10/6/2007 7:25:06 PM
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There appears to be a lot of frustration due to a few cases. I had no idea ~10 were being caught a week as I've only been aware of less than a handful. The issue here is the effect these rare cases are having. There's not a lot of star players on the TL, so when they hit the market and we're all after them and a cheater swoops in on that popular player a lot of us will notice this.

I had assumed most cheating allegations where dealt with manually by BB/GM, not through automated means. As the BB/employed staff already have so much to do, isn't it possible to give GM's the power to deal with individual cases which have been reported (maybe by multiple users)?

I think that last thing we, at least I, would want to do is push you all into additional hours of programming. If the current tools are working at the rate you stated then the system isn't broken, just needs some individual attention to the small number of cases which are having and impact and making it appear as that cheating is rife.

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