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From: SammyD

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155751.13 in reply to 155751.11
Date: 9/1/2010 5:22:52 PM
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This other "Stadium build" you are talking about is an arena with lots of bleechers and hardly any other the others right? I believe they make more money in the short term but in the long term there potential to make money is capped because the max price they can get for the majority of their seats is $20. If you have more Lower Tier seats you can potential increase your income in the future by putting the price up. That is why I am building up my Lower Tiers. I don't think I will build anymore than I am building now but by having them I know I can always increase my prices for higher profits while if I built up my bleechers I would be unable to do this.

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From: zyler

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155751.15 in reply to 155751.12
Date: 9/1/2010 11:51:48 PM
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but thats thing from what i can tell your not making an extra 30k a week then other 20k seat arenas your making less overall income each week from your arena.

From: zyler

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155751.16 in reply to 155751.13
Date: 9/2/2010 12:02:17 AM
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i totally get what your saying here , up until a few days ago i was going to build my arena like this .

12k bleachers - 8k lower tier - cap - cap.

before i begun construction i did a major search of arenas

the major majority of arenas where this model

16-18k bleachers - 3k lower - cap- cap

now before i started this search i thought the model i was going to build would have a much higher cap
until i found massens arena.

at his current prices he is not selling out - and i understand that is aused by a recent loss and such.
but at his current prices his not selling out and his is making far less income because of it.
now even if he was selling out at his current prices he would still be making less money then the other model.

i compared his arena selling out at current prices to about 100 other 20k (mainly beachers) arenas that were also selling out at there current prices, massens arena income is lower.

he would need his lower tier to all sell out at 41 to break the salary cap of the other arenas , and from what i can see thats not going to happen.

From: SammyD

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155751.17 in reply to 155751.16
Date: 9/2/2010 12:45:35 AM
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Selling out your arena shouldn’t be the goal. You should be looking at maximising your profits.

You should try to sell as many tickets you can at a high price. This means when have a lower ranked team play at your home court you sell less tickets than when you have a top team play.

If you are selling out your arena when you play a lower ranked team you are losing profits when a higher ranked team comes and play.

I can’t say this is a fool proof way of setting up your arena as I am still just experimenting with it and my prices (I set my lower tier to low for the current period) but as I see it, if I go the way I am going it provides me with a lot more flexibility in the future. As if I have 18k bleachers the most I can get from these seats is $20, so $360k. But if I have 9k bleachers and 9k Lower Tier I can get 180k + 630k. I know that’s not likely but 180k + 360k is….

Besides, if all else fails I can just set my lower tier seats to $20 and all I have lost is the initial cost. (This will never happen)

From: zyler

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155751.18 in reply to 155751.17
Date: 9/2/2010 12:50:10 AM
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i get what saying but do the research it doesnt work , lower tier wont sell enough seats at $40 to make that 360k .

look at massens arena he cant get to 8000 fans in his lower at $30 , how are you going to get 9k at $40

i understand fully what your saying and i hope you prove me wrong because what your suggesting is basicaly how i wanted to build my arena.

but as i said it just doesnt seem to work.

Last edited by zyler at 9/2/2010 12:53:00 AM

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155751.19 in reply to 155751.18
Date: 9/2/2010 1:15:13 AM
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I think my arena is almost perfect..I make about 550K a game and if I sell out I would be close to 600K
Arena Bleachers : 16417 (Current Price: $16) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $16)
Lower Tier : 3605 (Current Price: $51) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $51)
Courtside Seats : 500 (Current Price: $177) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $177)
Luxury Boxes : 49 (Current Price: $850) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $850)

Total Capacity : 20571


I think Sharman is making close to 630K a game...Here is what his arena looks like..

Arena Bleachers : 16161 (Current Price: $20) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $20)
Lower Tier : 4400 (Current Price: $47) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $47)
Courtside Seats : 500 (Current Price: $181) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $181)
Luxury Boxes : 50 (Current Price: $885) (Price as of 10/9/2010: $885)

Total Capacity : 21111

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155751.20 in reply to 155751.19
Date: 9/2/2010 1:21:29 AM
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:) i was already aware of this.

From: SammyD

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155751.21 in reply to 155751.18
Date: 9/2/2010 1:51:33 AM
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I'd like to know PR managers levels etc for all this research you have done, but I guess that is impossible.

Is Massendefekt the highest ranked team with a arena setup the way he has it?

Another interesting build would be one with more lower tier than bleechers. Say 12k Lower Tiers at $30 or $25. At $30 it would be the same as having 18k lower tiers but you would also have 8k bleechers as well. At $25 it would be like having 15k bleechers...

You would probably need a high level team and a high level PR man to sell that out thou.


From: SammyD

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155751.22 in reply to 155751.21
Date: 9/2/2010 1:57:57 AM
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550k per game isn't that far off what I get from my 15k stadium!

Attendance: $ 485 275

From: zyler

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155751.23 in reply to 155751.21
Date: 9/2/2010 1:59:15 AM
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the problem is you just cant get that many fans into your lower tiers at that prices from what i have seen.

and yes massen was the highest ranked with that type of arena.

massen cant get 8k people in at 30 , why do you think you can get in 12k at 30 or even 25 ?

it just doesnt add up , as much as id like it too.

what your missing in your above example also is that the people with 15k bleachers at $20 a seat still have 3000-4500 lower tier at like 60-70 dollars.
which completely kills the model your suggesting.



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