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From: Hadron

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185100.13 in reply to 185100.12
Date: 5/16/2011 7:16:12 PM
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This is unlikely. It will make the game too realistic. This is a fantasy game with its own quixotic elements. Enjoy.

From: Doctor J

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185100.14 in reply to 185100.13
Date: 5/16/2011 7:43:15 PM
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I can accept unlikely,but too realistic? i'm asking to give each player orders that unless changed he will carry them for all the games why is it too realistic? i'm not asking to give me someone with a basketball t-shirt to yell at him to play like i told him now THAT sound too realistic (:

I surely enjoy this game right now and want it be even better! this masseges and thread are my way to offer a usesul improvment to it that i think will change it greatly for the best,even if you think my offer if going too far you surely not happy with the current tactics system.

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185100.15 in reply to 185100.12
Date: 5/17/2011 1:45:23 AM
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I'm talking generaly not on my team roster (:

But thanks for looking and cheacking it.

And i don't want to grow any player and play any tactic,i want to give each player a set of orders that will be saved and carry on for any game untill i change it,i want each game my center to shoot in tha paint,my SG to shoot 3 points for at least most of his shoots and not only 1/3 of them like now,and not any more of the diffulets the game set for me without asking,i got a game where my PF shoot 4 time 3 point shoots,if i could i would tell him to go inside and try not to shoot any 3 point shoots,but i can't do that...and that is what i want to be changed here (:


sometimes the dudes also takes those shot because the defense give em to them, and normally with 4 trys they are able to convert or your ball run very bad through your players. The shot selection here isn't that bad in my eyes.

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185100.17 in reply to 185100.16
Date: 5/17/2011 9:00:56 AM
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It's not about the shoot selection being so bad i cant stand it,but it can be improved,look at the diffrence in tactics,you can chose run and gun that is a 3 point shooting tactic and still about 2\3 of your shoots will be for 2 points,same for base attack and for motion tactic,so what's the diffrnce beside the players getting more shoots becouse they play faster?

The shot selection here is not that bad but it still lack greatly,i want to go to my roster and for exmple give my PG and SG orders to play as motion tactic,for my SF to play noraml and my PF and C to play inside,is this so bad??

If i have a great C or PF and i want to play motion they will get less shoot and in the attack will be almost unnoticed if they don't got a good jump shoot,why a 300K center takes 6 shoots in a mption tactic? a total waste...but if he could play inside while the others jump shoot they the roster will get the best out of himself.

Do you have any self-versions of my idea? maybe you can offer a less or more other system that would be better i would like to hear people about it.

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185100.19 in reply to 185100.18
Date: 5/17/2011 10:30:39 AM
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This is what you think but it's still the thinking about tactics,in real life each player does what he need to,randolf takes rebounds and go inside,you don't see any centers throw for 3 point and guards with bad shooting dont throw much but try to penatrate to the basket(like rondo)do in real life everyone does waht they need to in individoal way but here you got to select a tactic that restricts all your 5 players on court-not realistic at all.

It's realistic for defence i'll give you that but the attack part is just SO FAR from real life orders it lacks severly in my opinion.

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185100.20 in reply to 185100.19
Date: 5/17/2011 11:17:09 AM
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You mistake perfect coaching for an engine thing. The reason, why people do, what they are doing is that they have to do it n their tactical schemes. You need to learn how to utilize the existing schemes and you need to work your players and their character / skillset in a perfect way, what you´re asking for is already there, you just haven´t found it yet.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 5/17/2011 11:18:08 AM

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185100.21 in reply to 185100.20
Date: 5/17/2011 4:43:30 PM
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I disagree with you,yes you can perfect it to a certin limit BUT that limit us not nearly the best use of your players possible,it's only the best possible for the tactic you choose.

I don't want it becouse it will help me i can do good enpugh without this BUT i want it in the game to improve the fun and realisim of the game and make it better.

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185100.22 in reply to 185100.21
Date: 5/17/2011 5:26:54 PM
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And again: you call it realism, but actually you misinterprete what´s going on in the NBA and in most basketball leagues. What you see is coaches utilizing players by making them running set plays and different and distinct offense schemes. Not vice versa. Only all star games work the way you ask for.

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185100.23 in reply to 185100.22
Date: 5/17/2011 8:11:23 PM
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I agree but not intirely,yes in the all star game everybody do whatever thet want and of course everybody do mostly what they are best to,but in EVERY game the players improvise when a certin attack drill fail and it happen A LOT and then again-anything goes just do it before the 24 cloack ends.

I don't see how giving an order to my center to try shoot most of his shoots in the paint is turning the game upside down in a wrong way.

I don't see almost ANY center in the world shooting 3 points(except for end games and desparte positions)on a regular base,surely you'll agree most of them takes their shoot closer to the ring then from the key area,so why telling my center to do this quite obvious very realistic thing is not good to this game???

I can understand people happy with the current system(i'm with them BTW)but i can't understand people not wanting to change it for the best,i say again-this game is aims to be realistic as it can and this thing is quite basic...

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