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So which country are you talking about Wolph.. I hope its China.... this is the only country I now intend to buy players from!!

All valid points - like your argument..... farm teams exist.. hell I could have opened 4-5 accounts these past weeks from the places I've been to.... got 4 more Euro countries on my trip soon... if i had the time (and ability - hahaha) to skillfully train players and dump them on the market to test your theory, I would!!

Wolph, good point and the sad thing it will probably never go away. For example...There was a free agent just last week, 21 years old and triple tremendous in IS,ID and rebounding passing, JS were all over strong and his OD was prolific...what seems to have happened was he was trained in the BIG stuff and then this manager quit and left his training on OD( the prolific OD had an arrow by it) for 7 weeks( going BOT and the player was getting OD 1 position)....Now, during the bidding I saw many GM's BBs bidding on this free agent. Don't know who got him in the end but as long as you have GM's, BB's trying to better thier teams....These players won't be deleted...I mean, come on..that player is going to turn into an elite PF and to find a player like that is just too hard...Like my suggestion, I think FA's should only come out during the offseason(3 weeks)....

so actually the suggestion is more to reduce all quality free agent, because good players hafd to be on farms?

But i would promise you, that you will still see bidding GM/BB bidding on good players, maybe they are worse when we ban all teams who put a lot of effort in designing there players.

You don't have to ban these teams, they go bot by design.
You are too smart not to know what's up.

thats why i mean, ban all teams who have great players and put effort into training them(or combine nt nominations with banning the owning team). By the way how is Arsis and Honda looking like?

Edit: Sorry for the case i didn't answer anymore cause Dachsbau looks very suspicious too.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/1/2011 3:35:24 AM

You´re making a huge thing out of something that "only" impacts a very small market. Don´t you think BB has lot other issues than doing such a huge effort (and actually you´re not really closing many ways of cheating) to fix something that impacts almost no-one?

I don´t even see much evidence to the fact of your farming theory, and even if it´s true - the most simple way to fit it is to ban player below 21 to ever become FA or to ban FAs at all. Period. Problem solved, isnt it?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 7/1/2011 3:51:31 AM

maybe we are having a miscommunication and misunderstanding eachother.

look to whom i replied it, and which is message said basically ;)

In the case of new teams that are quickly abandoned....why should they care? They quit the game right away right?

every player who quit the game, doesn't care anymore about they player, so why make extra rules. Btw young team ussually don't crack the necessary salary. Also expect cheater to be smart enough to press the sell button, instead of making fa the things, with probadly ruining the nt enthusiam through the rescue action.

Also consider blocking all users who ever log in via proxy from having their players go FA.

better say reomoving fa for all ;) If i look in from the university it's a proxy, if i log in from the smartphone(opera) it's a proxy, lot of internet coffe are detected as proxys too.

And overall i think you overrate the problem with farmed players here, because the majority of farms is run legally. And farming could also make fun, like playing sims or tamagotchi, with your player.

And you´re trying to tell me what?

What are you trying to "fix"? Who is suffering from the "cheating" you have discovered? I speak multiple languages, write dramas, direct plays, spend 4 times a week in a gym and I am season ticket holder of FC Bayern Munich. That adds to the discussion exactly how?

Problem (as you see it): Teams are created only to generate players, who are trained for a while, then the teams are abandoned and the players enter the market.

Simple question: as anybody can buy them, and nobody gets the money out of that transfer, who EXACTLY is on the short end of the stick?

In worst case the "short end of the stick" goes to the huge countries´ NTs, who suddenly face small teams having solid players. But that only to some degree evens out the advantage huge countries have by simply having a bigger player base to get their players recruited from. And even if it creats a disbalance, it affects like 10% of the overall BB users, because the rest don´t give a sh**t for the NT competitions anyways.

Who are you trying to save and protect with all your changes, and why don´t you simply propose to stop FAs or FAs below 21?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 7/1/2011 4:10:04 AM