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I don't quite understand the obsessive focus on getting to the top country division as being the only goal of playing Buzzerbeater. That is one goal, but that's not necessarily a top goal for everyone. There are other possible goals such as competing within your current division, training players, seeing your national team do well.

And when I first saw the other thread of "is BB competitive for new players?" I immediately though, it sure is! Because I've played many online manager games where it's impossible to even get out of the first division you were placed in. THat's not competitive. Having to spend multiple seasons just to become competitive in your first division is not fun. Needless to say, I very quickly quit those games.

But in BB, you can pretty quickly become competitive in your first season in the league you start in, even though you may not end up promoting. And when you do end up promoting, as long as you've prepared your team well, you have a chance to stick in the new league. That makes the game worth putting time into, the idea that if you work and manage well, you can win games and compete for your current league championship. I don't see having a long road before getting to the top league as a large detriment in any way. I don't sit here thinking to myself, "if I were only in the NBBA then I'd have fun." No, there is much to have fun with now in BB, in whatever league I am in.

I believe the changes you suggest would be worse than what they solve, and make the game significantly less enjoyable.

facts are facts. and conclusions are conclusions.

"problem" is an opinion. it´s a problem for you. fine. it´s not a problem for at least some others. fact.

And this is why you didn't relate to ANY fact that I've brought.
And did I said already - Interesting...

Let's make it simple.

1) I've proved that getting to the first division is non-existance unless you started at season-4 at the most.
Otherwise, you could get only due to others leaving the game.
Do you agree with this, and if not how do you contradict the facts given?

2) Getting to the first division is not the goal.
The goal is playing a game where you can get to any place upon your related abilities.
The first division is one of those places.

3) Poland -3633 users, only three teams (out of 16) had joined later than season-4. Two of the three got promoted to this league only now.

I've started in 9th season and in season 15 & 16 I was in 1st league ( from V of course) and now I'm back..it's not so hard..just stop losing your time to write this posts and make good team..you are in 3rd league..could be easier?

Why aren't you focusing on the facts at the start of this thread?
They are showing a full picture.
Rare cases that probably are due to the explanation I gaved on that same message are just that - rare.

1) Did you read the whole first message I started this thread with?

2) Did you see that in USA there are only about 2500 users (if I am correct)?
How can it be?
The answer is that it is very possible that a lot of users from USA left the game.
Probably due to the fact that there is no competition (in case you are lucky), or there is no chance (in case you are unlucky).

3) The examples you brought, are just "the individual that does not testify about the general case".
The general case shows that there are very few who did broke this "glass' roof".
The amount are something that cannot be mistaken about.

And again, those who did are probably due to others leaving the game (as also given examples), and not due to beating them.

OMG! See what I just found out ...

German league I ... all players ... MALE!
Italian league I ... all players ... MALE!
Spanish league I ... all players ... MALE!

The BBs seriously need to do something about that! That´s unfair! That´s a problem! COME ON, this can´t be true!

You know, just because it´s FACTS the conclusion, that it is so, doesn´t make it a problem.

So relating to your facts -> "So what? Where is the PROBLEM? I don´t see one."

Accept it. You will never make it to the top. You´re not here since season 4. So maybe playing 2k12 is the alternative, while we keep on trying?

I disagree. If he makes all managers above him quit, then he would be the best. Of the rest.

Accept it. You will never make it to the top. You´re not here since season 4. So maybe playing 2k12 is the alternative, while we keep on trying?

I don't need your opinion. I need BB to act.
The facts that I give here and all over, will make it.

The junk of excuses you are throwing (because you don't have any reliable information to support current system that you exploit due to its bad definition, will not do the trick...

First time I agree with you. BBs should act...