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From: Ruaidri

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Date: 10/25/2013 7:18:25 PM
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A NT player needs 10 seasons training at least. That means in real life 2.5 year!!! 2.5 year that your team is not on full strength. That is a big commitment.

Most managers fail somewhere along the way.
Good luck!

Only in the dark, we succeed!
From: fari

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Date: 10/25/2013 10:08:32 PM
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Well, I didn't mean I would be keeping him that long. He can sell for a lot of money the future. But evidently I still want him to be on track which in fact he is on track of the NT. I don't think an NT player gets 10 season training at least. Thats 28yrs of age, which players cap at that range as a HOF and below on the NT. A player gets probably about 6-8 seasons at least. Well you do the math on how much months that is. At most players train to their 10th season, depending on pot. Which if the player is almost fully trained at age 24yrs, he'll most likely cap at age 26 or 27.

Who knows what the future holds in store for me, I might just keep him, or not.

From: fari

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Date: 10/25/2013 10:12:09 PM
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Plus most managers fall in the early stages of the game, being uninterested in the game long enough to enjoy it. When your training a player and becomes your stud, you actually become more interested because of the hardwork and results of a stud player you trained for so long.

From: Flamen

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Date: 10/26/2013 6:07:02 AM
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If he goes over 220-240k with those secondaries he will go retired.

Also about IS statement, remember that the inside skill silverbacks tanked of outside attack was ID. IS should be as high as it can be. You need to capitalize on easy oportunities.

From: fari

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Date: 10/26/2013 7:16:10 AM
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Just because I don't agree with your logic,you dare, criticize me with insults are you serious?? what are you like 10, its a game?? Dude lets be real, this is a forum where all opinions are valued. I don't know about you but this is just a game after all, which I enjoy playing. But I don't need these comments from someone who clearly doesn't know how to give advice ,CONSTRUCTIVELY. I really thought we could have explained our view point on things, but your to weak to challenge me and quite frankly please, don't comment, troll somewhere else. I guess this is why nobody listens to you ......Skip Bayless.

Ok, lets be clear, I never said anything about having a lot of players with 250k to 300k. I said it's a sacrifice for a team to have a player like that, Ulf Gornitz was in fact low 300kish, Morande is still in fact 300k which is Chiles best player, but they both are are very all-around players on resume. Salary wise yes, the more affortable highish 180kish teams usually win it all. I probably didn't explain myself clearly, but it dosen't matter. I definitely understand that the bigs with no subs with the high salary's will never win against bigs with all-around skills. I completely get that. It is better to have more affordable player like WC NT's. PF's dominate this game.

Why don't you stop being self centered. Clearly you don't like being attacked by other peoples thoughts on any matter. Work on that. You should have at least try to uplift my goals, you started where I was before, and you had goals. I clearly have knowledge dude, you completely misunderstood, probably alot of people before me as well. and people who aren't even in D3 have knowledge, I've accomplished a lot in this game I trained Greg Pereira, U21 NT star who was looking like this 11/8/14/13/13/14 - 5/4/3/6 - 3/7 at the beginning of S20 at 21yrs of age, he was 40k PG playing on THEE best U21 team ever in history. Please respect every bodies opinions on any matter, this is a friendly community I come to know for about 2-3 years....until now. And just because I'm in D.IV, doesn't mean Idk a thing about the game, that's a pretty dumb assessment on things. Maybe because I was building up my arena, check out how big my arena is. I was saving up money, not just promoting every season. But I guess you gained rep, by bashing everybody, about serious topics. Otherwise I never heard of any of your accomplishments.

You have it easy, your in a Micronation.





Last edited by fari at 10/26/2013 9:24:03 AM

From: fari

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Date: 10/26/2013 7:31:54 AM
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I won't make him that much salary

From: Ruaidri

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250172.20 in reply to 250172.18
Date: 10/26/2013 10:21:05 AM
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Okay Fari,

I don't like the way you replied me, but I will answer you.

I have been NT manager for 6 seasons. I know a lot of players on the top NT's. Also Team USA I have a lot of knowledge about.

To get a 18 year old drafted this year in a national team. You need at least 130 skillpoints on the 10 first skills. Starting from an average of 50 means that you have to train at least 80 skillpoints on a player to get him in a NT. Training all the skills to get a multi-skilled player takes a lot of time, because you have to play the player a lot out of position and those trainings goes the slowest. 4,5 weeks to wait for a pop when they are 23,24 is not uncommon.

Last point, Wolph sounds sometimes a little bit harsh, but he is a very knowledged person. Listen to him and you get a lot of information for free, which would take you years to gain by just playing this game.

Only in the dark, we succeed!
From: fari

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Date: 10/26/2013 10:41:09 AM
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I can see your point, I understand that it is very hard to train players passed their 26th season. Out of position training is definitely hard and takes commitment. Skill points matter, but think his pot makes up for it and he will train longer.

But, this is my 9th season in this game, so I shouldn't be taken as some manager in D.IV. But he can't just bash me for his misunderstanding of my response. And I agree with most of his theories. I might even do what he says, I never was rude to him. I even thank him for his 1st response on previous post. At the same time shouldn't discredit anybody on the knowledge of the game imo. If you cut out that long paragraph about "I don't have any experience", and his last paragraph. I would have completely acknowledge. But why does he put such comments in his response....idk. Bashing anybody to my knowledge is not considered helpful.

Last edited by fari at 10/26/2013 10:51:01 AM

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 10/26/2013 3:48:29 PM
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I think the most appropriate response is that it's likely that the player could eventually someday reach those skills, but how are you going to afford to keep him on your roster those last few years, or how will you be sure that whoever buys him from you continues training him?

From: fari

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Date: 10/26/2013 10:28:50 PM
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Hopefully I promote in the years to come, he will be quite affordable in his early years until his primaries are high enough. I have the head start on my arena, but if my plans don't work out I'll sell him for sure. And probably contact managers from NBBA/D2 to snag him.

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