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173.25 points per game in ABBL round 13, and that's counting the game where full court press was used against the bot. Getting the match viewer to work consistently should be the main priority right now, but a simple buff to all shots next off-season would be appreciated.

I've also got an idea in mind that would make FT% more reasonable in this post-Training Court era, but that's a topic for another thread.

As a starting point, you could compare:

1. turnovers
2. 3pt %
3. (fg-3pt)%

At least in two different leagues, to make sure this is not an issue related to the teams in your league.

That would give us a first idea of what the GE is doing differently.

The results might be skewed by team strength, as I'm counting everything except forfeits here, but these are the point averages for Espana ACBB;

Season 51: 179.33
Season 52: 161.07 (163.12 excluding CEI TOLEDO)

Exact numbers for turnovers and shooting percentages are harder to total up manually, so you'll have to forgive me for only doing ABBL for now, but here's the per team averages in more detail.

Points per game;
Season 51: 90.46
Season 52: 84.40

Turnovers per game;
Season 51: 10.34
Season 52: 10.85

3 point % (made/attempts per game);
Season 51: 26.9% (4.75/17.66)
Season 52: 28.7% (5.37/18.70)

2 point %;
Season 51: 45.4% (30.69/67.57)
Season 52: 41.7% (27.43/65.85)

And we can also derive that fewer points are being scored from free throws (14.83 in S51 vs 13.43 in S52). Given what I posted about the ACBB, I would expect similar stat trend in that league. This is about as deep as I can go without BB Game Analyzer, which as capali hinted at, isn't working on modern windows. But it isn't something I want to give up on yet.

Well, apparently this time BB-Marin did what he promised. Let's give him his due. More turnovers and more threes. I don't remember he said less 2-points% though.

Those numbers mean 0.86 points per 3pt shot and 0.83 points per 2pt shot, so the game is more balanced now, no doubt about it. He should raise the 3-pt% until 30% maybe because interior tactics give more interior shots, which have a higher percentage than the general 2-pt% number.

Well, apparently this time BB-Marin did what he promised. Let's give him his due. More turnovers and more threes. I don't remember he said less 2-points% though.

Those numbers mean 0.86 points per 3pt shot and 0.83 points per 2pt shot, so the game is more balanced now, no doubt about it. He should raise the 3-pt% until 30% maybe because interior tactics give more interior shots, which have a higher percentage than the general 2-pt% number.

I think we would need to wait a season or two before more adjustments are made. It's very possible that with different training (e.g. more JS/JR heavy players) and different offensive tactics that 3 point percentage is already too high.

The GE doesn't really govern the way managers prefer to train players. The salary formulas do, and since they haven't been drastically altered for a while I don't expect the skillset of your typical top league player to change much.

Adjusting percentages for pace wouldn't make sense, since it's already an overall efficiency stat. Volume stats, such as TOs and PPG, could however be adjusted. Either way, I suspect it will reflect the same trend Jay has noticed so far.

Also as previously stated, I think the impact is pretty big. When you combine the ~2% increase in 3pt% and ~4% decrease in 2pt%, that is a very large difference. Once teams adjust and optimize for this new GE, results will be even more devastating I think. However, one thing to keep in mind in this stat is that there may be more outside offenses being run now, which would explain the drop in 2pt%. The true way to compare the before/after is to block on offense. When you compare the stats for each offense before and after the buffs we will know for sure the true effects.

One problem with this whole thing is that opponent strength, GS, injuries, etc. are all factors that can mess with the data. So we need a fairly large sample size in order to get significant results. Unfortunately, this is extremely tedious without some kind of data scraping (which I believe is a bannable offense). So, unless someone's got a lot of time on their hands and know what they are doing, it will be hard to come up with meaningful data.

This bump reminded me to ask if anyone thinks they can troubleshoot the BB Game Analyzer. The issue on Windows 10 is a Run-time error '-2147221164 (80040154)': Class not registered.

If it's possible to overcome this error, I am still willing to do that B3 analysis of last season vs this one to get a good breakdown of what the GE is currently doing.