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97717.13 in reply to 97717.11
Date: 6/18/2009 5:27:55 PM
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You dont know exactly this, but you know the exact number of enthusiasm? Seems kind of odd now doesn't it?

I am not saying this way is great..or good..or decent...I am mainly saying the current way needs to go. It is a Republican (ha!) way to do this. The rich get richer. The strong teams dont want change as much as the lower teams do (if you read through the many forum posting on this subject).

This adds in quite nicely to good teams hardly ever dropping down. Aren't teams supposed to have ups and downs. 5-6 years good....then rebuild, etc?

Big teams win...they make more money..they always have better players...they never fall.

I am ALL for that! No doubt. But to make enthusiasm favor them as well? That has got to go.

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97717.15 in reply to 97717.14
Date: 6/18/2009 5:46:36 PM
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Hey man. I have played one season, I won my league. I draft...I train..and I am setting up for the future. Love how you pick and choose what you want to attack though.

My examples are examples to spark comments and hopefully change. Why "Vastly" because you say so? Wouldn't a slightly better way ..be better? HAHAHAHAHA. Wow.I understand change would take a long time and incorporates a lot of things. Sounds like you are just afraid of change?

Yes...teams are supposed to have ups and downs. It happens in every sport, in every country, in every single level.

What does enthusiasm have to do with good teams? Ok...maybe I should be talking with someone else at this point. Because you have clearly missed the boat on this one Super Chief.

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97717.17 in reply to 97717.16
Date: 6/18/2009 6:30:17 PM
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Thank you for this response. That is what I wanted. I do understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with some of them.

I admitted, I hadn't thought it through all the way..didn't I? Very first line of this thread. You throw ideas around...and it sparks more and most of the time, better ideas.

About managers having a clue. Once you are at the top...you dont have to have as much of a clue to stay there. That is a flaw. Sort of like..once you are in..you are in. Someday..I will be there...5-6-7 years? sure..I understand that. I don't get frustrated with not having instant gratification. Nothing to do with me personally anyway...so please keep it that way.

I knew my idea wasn't good...I know that. The main point is the current one is not good either, and just wanted to throw some stuff out there to spring board. I even said in the first post "Example...not to be taken literally."

Offering some ideas is better than moaning with no ideas. But you are on me because my ideas happen to not work. Ok fine. I get it...But you get my point....the current system does not work. So thank you.

I guess the fact people talk about it means it is pretty good. When there is controversy ...usually means it is "give or take a few" right?

Thanks again for the thought out response. That is all I ask for from a GM. I can get BS from anyone.

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97717.21 in reply to 97717.20
Date: 6/18/2009 7:37:09 PM
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No worries guys. It is good to be passionate like GM Kozlodoev. I would rather have that than someone who doesn't explain why or someone who doesn't talk at all. There is no reason to be personal if you disagree with them. What is half-baked to you, could be personal opinion, me being ignorant, good, bad, awful ..etc. Just ideas being thrown around. That is how one comes up with anything.

Which leads to Piotras3, who without this thread for me, would not have told me his good idea (see what I mean?)

I do like Piotras3's suggestion to limit the amount of times you can TIE. Without re-inventing the wheel and messing with too much development, could be something great to look at.

I like discussions like these as long as I don't get attacked! hahaha. I read forums all the time searching for things. In all honesty, best fantasy sports I have been involved in!

What I am hoping (and I don't think this to be the case) is that things are not implemented because "it takes too much work" or "too much time" even if it could be better. I work for a company that does things out of fear like that and it is disappointing. So far ...really ...this site is an absolute "A" for a grade. If you want me to list the reasons why, I will ...but I want to make sure you know this is more minor ...as the good is the major.

Cheers

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97717.23 in reply to 97717.16
Date: 6/18/2009 8:41:35 PM
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Suggestion for Enthusiasm:

As someone who has played basketball most of my life (up to college). I find the enthusiasm element a little too powerful. When basketball teams play each other, they don't go out and take it easy to try and rest. I can't remember ever having a coach say: "Guys, let's not play hard this game because our next game is really important, and we need to save ourselves to try and win it." It doesn't seem realistic.

However, I do think it adds some more strategy to the game. If I were changing it, I would first reduce t he effect of enthusiasm on the games.

I think the enthusiasm needs to be tied with winning. As a player I can't see how I get more enthiastic after I get blown out by 40 points when my team TIEs. I would say keep it the same, but add the element of winning or losing to influence how much the enthusiasm moves. For instance if I TIE a game and win, my number moves just like it does today, but if I lose my game, it moves up half as much. Same with CT. If I win, My enthusiasm will move down less.

I don't know if this is perfect, but whatever is done, it needs to have a little less effect on the games outcome.

Just my .02 worth

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