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From: Koperboy

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Date: 8/16/2013 3:31:09 AM
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Quote from BB patrick:

Well, I cannot say whether the change affects certain matchups more than others, but as we said in previous newsposts there are some areas on the pitch where shot blocking is the most usefull. In these areas shots are altered (or blocked) much more often than others and we increased the value of shot blocking in some of these areas.

Anyways, the effect of the Shot Blocking change shouldn't solely be measured in altered or blocked shots. It may very well be that overall the looks in inside tactics are much worse or that guards are forced to take more shots from the outside. This could all result in inside tactics being less effective, yet these are not clearly observed from boxscores.

If I understand correctly, this basically means centers with high shotblocking will be more willing to offer help at blocking shots from driving guards. Also guards should not drive as much against good shotblockers.

From: Koperboy

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Date: 8/16/2013 4:29:09 AM
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There is little rotation, even in the zones, the bigs are not rotating over and stopping the inside attack.


Yes, that frustrates me too. We are developing PGs with huge driving and IS skills, but with no outside shot and mediocre passing (15-16 at best). This somewhat mirrors NBA, where the best PGs are unguardable 1 on 1 (Rose, Westbrook, CP3), but in NBA you have Howard, Hibbert and other great defensive centers that step in and try to alter the shot should the opposing PG blow by its' cover man. Here in BB...not so much.

Would SB by too powerful if it had game-altering effects like Dwight Howard has on opponents' outside players who are changing their game plan just because of his presence? I think not, because in order to have high SB you have to sacrifice other inside skills and real life is no different (exceptions like Hakeem excluded).

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From: Koperboy

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Date: 8/16/2013 5:31:47 AM
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I think its the salary formula, not the GE which is the biggest problem now.


I agree. Free IS is a problem. I mean, last year's winner of BB has PG with IS>PA. How ridicolous is that?

Try 20 SB on a big and stay under 200k salary wtihiout gimping him somehwere...you could have 20 OD or 20 PA on teh big (in some crazy builds) with tanked SB thoug hadn keep the salary veyr verylow...and this is what folks have been doing.

This is a ~200k build:

9 2
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It's 139 skillpoints and we have some SFs that have more, but boy, would this training be painful and slow. The best course would probably be to buy a all-around HoF with 208-211cm, work three seasons on outside skills (OD in particular) and then train him at C for the rest of his career, save a season of PA.This player is a nightmare matchup for attackers, but does close to nothing on offense, so it balances out. And this balance should be achieved on guards also.

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Date: 8/16/2013 5:50:51 AM
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@Wolph:
I think when the guard has high DR but only 2~5 IS, if the defending team has 7+ SB on his guards, then this is where we will see blocks, not from the bigs.

true. My PG has SB 7 and he is the best and only non-big shotblocker in the top 20 of the league (7th place.).

@Koperboy:
9 2
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It's 139 skillpoints and we have some SFs that have more, but boy, would this training be painful and slow. The best course would probably be to buy a all-around HoF with 208-211cm, work three seasons on outside skills (OD in particular) and then train him at C for the rest of his career, save a season of PA.This player is a nightmare matchup for attackers, but does close to nothing on offense, so it balances out. And this balance should be achieved on guards also.

actually, I started 3,5 seasons ago to build something similar. 203cm, MVP and already the third best defender (OD+ID+SB) in Germany. In 3 weeks he will be the nr. 1 together with one of our NT players. But I won't train passing (that high) and rebound. I will go for JS and IS and his salary will stay under 150k.

From: Koperboy

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Date: 8/16/2013 6:10:01 AM
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This guy is absolutely worthless on offence.

Don't forget offensive rebounds and passing. It's not much, but it's something. If you surround him with four scorers, you can compensate for his shortcomings. Think of Serge Ibaka or Kendrick Perkins...

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/16/2013 6:10:45 AM

From: Coolbobj

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Date: 8/16/2013 11:03:43 AM
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My goodness is something wrong with me? ... I actually agree with Wolph.

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