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161502.134 in reply to 161502.133
Date: 10/29/2010 1:01:49 PM
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What happens if you are in a competitive league and you have a team but just can't win any games. Should you get next to 0 profit? This makes it nearly impossible for teams at the bottom end of the ladder to improve.

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161502.135 in reply to 161502.132
Date: 10/29/2010 1:03:22 PM
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Another thought is to use all the variables that I mentioned: if the team is losing games, their salary is one of the lower ones in the league and they have lots of cash on hand. In that case, the sponsor could pull their TV contract (0 TV revenue), a lot less fans could show up to the game and their merch revenue could flatline.

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161502.136 in reply to 161502.134
Date: 10/29/2010 1:08:01 PM
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Should you get next to 0 profit? This makes it nearly impossible for teams at the bottom end of the ladder to improve.


Umm... That's kind of what is happening in the more developped countries, if I understand the situation correctly. In any event, the salary floor could be tuned to give whatever profit level the BBs want. And in lower divisions, perhaps status quo could be more appropriate.

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161502.137 in reply to 161502.134
Date: 10/29/2010 1:23:38 PM
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What happens if you are in a competitive league and you have a team but just can't win any games. Should you get next to 0 profit? This makes it nearly impossible for teams at the bottom end of the ladder to improve.



the minimum don't have to be a losing buissness, but we had a team in our league who made more then 400k(i believe even 500) profit each week ;) When he would be forced to pay a t least 350k salary - he still earns a lot.

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161502.138 in reply to 161502.137
Date: 10/29/2010 1:36:48 PM
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But if you make a rule about the teams at the bottom of the ladder having to have a certain salary, and penalising them if they don't, then you are making it nearly impossible to catch up to them without spending time to tank and collect money.

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161502.139 in reply to 161502.138
Date: 10/29/2010 1:38:45 PM
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But if you make a rule about the teams at the bottom of the ladder having to have a certain salary, and penalising them if they don't, then you are making it nearly impossible to catch up to them without spending time to tank and collect money.


no you make it impossible to tank, but you still could earn more then the top. Or you could make it, that the visitors come depending on the effort, and when you just lineup a 6th league team, you just get a 6th league public to the game.

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161502.140 in reply to 161502.136
Date: 10/29/2010 1:39:00 PM
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So in developed countries this would hurt teams even more, as teams that aren't good enough suffer even more so financially. I don't see a problem with the current system. Sure the tanking teams make a lot of money, but it also means they probably relegate, and even if they don't, any one can use this strategy and so it offers choice in the game and I think it is another way to success. In this current economy, there is no doubt in my mind that tanking is the easiest way to success.

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161502.141 in reply to 161502.139
Date: 10/29/2010 1:40:07 PM
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How do you make it impossible to tank?
What is the difference between a team trying to tank and a team that has a decent roster but just sucks and isn't good enough to beat people.

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161502.142 in reply to 161502.140
Date: 10/29/2010 2:15:48 PM
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So in developed countries this would hurt teams even more, as teams that aren't good enough suffer even more so financially.


You missed the point. In developed countries, the bottom teams (finishing last) are already losing money or breaking even because practically every team is pushing the limit (in terms of salary). The floor suggestion does not impact them at all.

And I really see no reason for a last placed team to make money off of their season income, especially in division I and II.

any one can use this strategy and so it offers choice in the game and I think it is another way to success.


It is at the moment the fastest way to dominate your country for a middling division I team. In fact, just sitting on your bank balance is already a fast way to advance (because of the rapid deflation). When you add to that 10 million in profit...

I seem to remember the BBs saying (once upon a time) that no strategy should be incredibly dominant over the others. And really, there is absolutely no need to demote. You just have to win enough games to get a relegation game, add enough players to win the series at the end of the season and rinse and repeat for another season.

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161502.143 in reply to 161502.141
Date: 10/29/2010 2:30:37 PM
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How do you make it impossible to tank?
What is the difference between a team trying to tank and a team that has a decent roster but just sucks and isn't good enough to beat people.


that you don't earn "infinite" money, and that you still could get close to a win and sometimes even win games ;)

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161502.144 in reply to 161502.121
Date: 10/29/2010 3:17:21 PM
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However, my main argument is directed against those who are complaining. It isn't the economy's job to cater towards the consumer. The consumer must adapt to the current situation. It's simply deplorable to complain that because the economy is in deflation the game is no longer of good quality.


I would agree with you if the BBs actually allowed the market to go through a normal flow. However, much of the current deflation is attributable to their input into the market for better or for worse. Others have mentioned actions or inactions that have led to the current situation (free agents, lack of competition, etc). I don't want to rehash too much.

Like I said in a previous message, who is to say that these actions are actually bringing us towards equilibrium? And if we are really almost there, then why not scale some of them back? It only stands to reason, for example, that if you eliminate free agency in one fell swoop that this period of deflation will only be followed by another period of inflation.

In short... suck it up.


Don't worry, I will. Perhaps you will even see me tank later this season if the BBs maintain status quo. I just want to clinch 4th place 1st and go far enough in the cup. Then I will assess the lay of the land and go forward. ;-)

Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 10/29/2010 3:17:59 PM

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