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Try to specify the idea by some formulas and keep in mind that it could be as simple as possible to be easy to understand by every user. I think it would be too complicated so that it can work unless it's like hard cap on savings. Hard cap on savings I can imagine as e.g. 30M (just an example) cap for cash reserves. After you reach the cap you are not increasing your cash reserves even if you make weekly profit.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 5/18/2011 11:00:03 AM

30 Million, lol

How about people who have around 100 million now? that will not be fair.. also negative interest is unfair too because players earned this money fair and square by trading and managing their team effectively to reduce salaries and in same time win..

also, I could win last 3-4 B3 competitions easily with that cash but i choosed not to do so.. now, you are punishing people like me and just take away their hard earned cash?? is this fair? I guess it is not fair.

they earned this cash.. you can put cap on the cash that they will earn in future but not the cash they already earned fair and square by long time planning and sacrificing not wining competeions in the past to save that cash.. that's why a negative interest will not be fair at all...
I f i knew there will be a negative interest applied, i would have choosen to win last B3 competitions instead of saving for example..

again, you will be punishing people who try to plan a long term plan by applying rules like these....

how would you feel if you are in my position and the negative interest will take away a million or something each week from your hard earned - long term cash? its totally unfair..

well, that's my opinion on the matter, thanks

Well, every time BBs make a change in the rules there is people how is negative affected by them but a lot more is benefited. When they decided to stop inflation I was severely damaged by it, and I said something pretty similar to what you're saying today. Many told me something like "You think this will continue forever? You should have foreseen it. This can not continue". I wasn't happy but I understood that the changes were trying to solve a problem and, in the future it will be better for everyone.

Do you have 100M in savings? If that's so I will recommend you to start buying good players now and trying to win now instead of trying to do it in a future where you might no able to make a efficient use of your money, or you will prevented from even having it. But it's your call, just remember you heard a warning and you were aware of the discussion.




Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 5/18/2011 12:31:09 PM

I guess it is not fair.

Is it fair to the rest of the teams in the world that teams from uncompetitive and unbalanced D.1 from small countries can generate money at an exponential level?

I don't care about this debate much either way and am not advocating for any changes. The BB's can let this issue fester to the point that the B3 is even less interesting then national team competitions (maybe it's there now). Either way, irony is off the charts for you to mention anything about unfairness, especially after being in the position to say this:

I could win last 3-4 B3 competitions easily with that cash but i choosed not to do so

..well, the BB's don't think this is the case or is an issue so you're in good shape to win the B3 whenever you like. Oh..and you're somehow a martyr too.

Last edited by brian at 5/18/2011 2:41:18 PM

I knew this would happen since season 9. When I explained this, some users said that not true because this kind of teams never won a B3.

Seems like a lot of problems were predicted before they became bigger issues. Why wait to nip these issues in the bud until they blowup or ppl are too vested in their long term plans to make unfair changes? It's too late now.

As I recommend for every change it could be announced at least 1 season in advance. So I expect any chance no earlier than at start of season 18. If there are some changes you still have time to win season 17 B3 and probably even season 18, 19 depending how the changes would look like.
The best way would be to let all savers fight for B3 title season 17 and starting from season 18 it could be more interesting competition.

Don't be absurd comparing Misagh or cashwinners and my strategy for winning B3.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 5/19/2011 1:27:43 AM

i dont know. to me tanking is just one of strategies. why should we punish them for collecting? lets think, next season few of tankers (as we know we have at least 6-10) will have the feeling they should make their run lets say 2-4, after the season starts we will find out only one is going to win so 2 of them will wait for next season. next season we will have 2 +1 who didnt win and extra 2-3, again 4-5 will have to give up or just spend their money next season, and so on.. we will have too many tankers trying to do the same thing and only 1 is capable to accomplish so number of tankers will rise so their goal - collect and win will fail to 70%-80% of them. so this strategy will become not so succesfull as they thought so naturaly number of tankers will decrease.
what is the point? just think what is going to happen with economy when 50M+ teams will start to buy? we will see huge bid wars for top end players and the prices will rise again. players prices rise will affect incomes of other tankers while for that 5-8M they will make up for season they wont be able to buy more than 1 player. So the tanking strategy will become very long term plan. We know how long term plans ends up right?
so bottom line to me: lets make them rise our players prices and fight.
i would welcome few minor changes in economy though. in other managerial games the more cash you have the higher expectations your fans have. so maybe something in "fan survey=gate recieps" could change:
1. a bit more realistic adjustment of Tv contracts accordnig to nation power
2. game income bigger reduction if big pile team loses a game

Last edited by LA-zajino at 5/19/2011 5:53:18 AM