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The chronology that I see from the posts that I've seen on these forums go:

You posted about not being able to bid on players (As your threads show, except for the now deleted posts)

A bug is posted about not being able to post transfers

You make multiple threads two hours later about the bug and how the sky is falling.

Edju (or someone else) suspends transfers to figure out the bug

Transfers are restarted with some players having gone for cheap.


I see nothing in any of the posts that are available that state that players were able to go for 1K, only that players *did* because of transfers not being available (so no new bids could go in on them). There's heresay that it was possible but I see nothing from the BBs that that was the case nor from other players. With something with that much effect on the TL at a time we would have heard a LOT about people having their players go for cheap on these forums. We have not.

Last edited by Arislanx at 2/7/2011 9:27:12 PM

again the threads i started where not reporting a bug they where a discussion of what the bug allowed.

It's all discussing a particular Bug though so it should have remained in the Bugs thread. There's no point in breaking up a single bug in to multiple threads or it will all just get confused.

To summarise:

- Creating new threads in BB Global about a bug (whether it's reporting a new bug or discussing a current one) was not the right thing to do and those threads were rightfully closed.
- Having those threads closed with no message to explain why (until GM-Rip responded) was not the right thing to do from our end and that is something that we need to work on from a moderator/admin standpoint (and we are).

understood , thanks dire

So what's going to happen now with all the people who got those players on the cheap. I know I tried to bid on a player with a TPE of 2 million and it would not let me...and he went for 675K. Is it fair that a "BUG" let these teams get these players for sooooo cheap. And how about the teams that lost money because　their players prices were stuck. Maybe that should be a new supporter feature..Giving the supporters a 5 minutes head start when one of these "BUGS" hit...
PS..I was going to stick two players in the bin this week...Not anymore. Just so you can tell me,"tough Luck!!" when the price gets frozen and you guys finally figure it out two hours later...
TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK..that is the clock ticking down till March 9th when my supporter ends...Right now it's
YES<NO

Transfer market sucks big time for more than a few months and nothing is done about it. I dont know if the developers are so filthy rich they dont have to care about their work anymore but a little more interest and responsiveness would definitely not hurt them.

I will definitely not extend my supporter package if the game remains in this state and continues to decline. BBs facebook page is a joke - lol @ twitter and nice video contest too. :-/

Well Knecht, I'm sorry to ask you this, but do you ever read a message from someone with a BB- in front of his name?
Since really, somehow I would almost think you're running a script that automatically filters out these messages so that you are not even able to read them. I guess this message is a nice test ;).

If you manage to read this one, please try to read BB-Charles his messages in this topic and the last few news items. Yes there are many problems, yes we are aware of it, yes we try to fix these things. We feel bad we cannot offer the game-quality we'd like to offer this season. We feel bad to mess with the community, our managers, this much this season.

The underlying problem, unfortunately, isn't something we are able to fix with a simple 'push the button'. As you see in the current announcement, our developers are trying several options to help the problem, and offer the community a better game.

As much as we like to answer you and all the other managers who suffer from the problems now, tomorrow, or in a few days that all problems are fixed and solved, sometimes that just impossible.

But I can assure you, not a single developer is filthy rich (hence, they have to have full time jobs next to BB), and all developers care more for the game than you can possibly imagine.

Really, as a non developer, I feel it's just not fair at all to treat the devs with the low amount of respect as you do. I can't even count the amount of times again when I log onto skype and see for example Mark or Charles accepting a 2 hours night of sleep at work days to fix BB things in the middle of the night in either timezone. Same goes for the other devs.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 2/8/2011 9:44:53 AM

Well Knecht, I'm sorry to ask you this, but do you ever read a message from someone with a BB- in front of his name?

The only BBs that are somewhat frequently posting on these forums seem to be you and Edju - and most of the time those post are rather lacking information than clarifying things, or even completely useless.

It is definitely not lack of respect, rather than disappointement or maybe I am spoiled by some other games that I use to play that handle things so much better than the operators of this site.

As much as we like to answer you and all the other managers [...] sometimes that just impossible.

I think that is ridiculous. Its not that I think that I dont receive enough attention, generally speaking communication is poor in this game. You have at least a handful of people that know whats going on behing the curtains and those few guys cant write a few sentences every now and then, tweet a message or post sthg. on facebook?

Instead of windbagging, if you are not satisfied with what you get for the Supporter package, don't get it again. There is no reason to continually threaten the developers with the loss of your $39.99. That buys you four lattes in Tokyo. That's a much better deal.

There are literally millions of diversions out there. If this game, with all of its idiosyncrasies and bugs, isn't making you happy, go find another one that does. If you honestly think that the developers are trying to give you a poor product or don't care about this game and its success, you are wrong.

Your not a very good salesman are you? Go else where... Is that the message you really want to give to paying customers. The sad part is..my post had a question in it that you failed to answer( What is your job again). If someone had a player in the bin at this time(so called BUG) happening and he lost money due to you BUG, where people could not bid on his player...Are you(BB) going to give him some BB money back due to it being a game flaw,bug whatever you want to call it happening?

GM's do not have to be a salesperson.
GM's volunteer their time and don't get paid.
They are simply the hands of the BBs by managing this crap that you post.
They do not sell this product and if you don't like it, get out.

I think the less-than-PC answer was because there are people who seem to almost relish the times when there are problems because they get to complain about things and your post(s) have often seemed to go along those lines. I understand that if there are issues with a game that you have paid to support (or even when you haven't paid for it) that it can be frustrating but while you ask if this or that is fair, i can also ask; is it fair to constantly be bashing the BBs who are frustrated the most whenever there are issues and who work tirelessly, often spending sleepless nights doing what they can to improve things for you?

Yes, there are certain issues with the game at the moment and they have been identified and are being worked on but it's getting to the point where any time the slightest issue occurs, some people go running around like the sky is falling and the world is going to end. I'm starting to think that some people actually enjoy any faults that occur as it gives them the chance to bitch and moan about things.
Like i said, issues with the game are known at this point and being worked on as fast as the BBs possibly can to ensure long term stability but as a player, there's not much point in constantly bashing the BBs unless it gives you some sort of weird personal satisfaction to do so.
As i see it, you can skin your knee and get on with enjoying the game as the majority of people do or you can skin your knee and go on about a simple skinned knee all day long....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHbPgDvAvf0



Last edited by DireWolf at 2/9/2011 2:21:08 AM