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Stopping free agents from one week to the other wouldn't really help imo...

The effect is to change suddenly the market and the economy and even if it will be better for me I'm against "external" decision; the main problem is that following the statements of the BBs the economy should be auto-regulated but how it can be autoregulated if the economy is related to: users, costs and profits, where users is a variable impossible to predict and costs and profits are dediced by someone? (salary costs 3-5% lower, TV up to 20k/week and so on...)

Free Agents. They lower the transfer prices by adding a big percentage of availbale players on the market, AND every time a free agent is bought, al the millions disappear out of the game instead of being spread forth and forth to new clubs via transfers etc. 2 major game affections.

I tend to think of Free Agents as part of the game's effort to take out money from the game that is introduced by income, tv contracts, etc. Of course money needs to be disappearing from the game, since money is being created within the game as well.

Slowing down the supply of free agents or stopping them entirely must be worth an effort or are the BB's happy with the monetary reward for training right now?

I don't think I would start by getting rid of free agents. Slowing them, yes. Dropping them, no.

As I said before, constant deflation and inflation are bad for the game. I think this "depression" is partly psychological, as most down-turns of this type are. But you can't sit with money in your account during an inflationary period. Therefore all the savers would splash the market, pushing prices higher and higher. Maybe we would end up in a worse situation than the last time BB experienced heavy inflation.

What is needed is to go to a period of slow inflation. Something to give the savers food for thought. Getting there might require some tuning of the free agent process or some growth in the game or a revamp of the salary system or some idea that I don't have the brain power to come up with.

As I said before, constant deflation and inflation are bad for the game. I think this "depression" is partly psychological, as most down-turns of this type are.

God i dindt expect to read this on an online game ¡


Apart from that i dont know if we arrived to the worst moment of the transfer market, but its a fact that LOTS of managers lost huge amounts of money in their training value and now they see its not worth to keep paying the salary of their player or even selling them.


About Superfly Guy words:

Somethings wrong if the game is losing 3,000 managers a week and we have a net minus of users (albeit marginal)

I dont know wether this is true or not, but I suppose yes. The problem of this game at this moment is that economy has taken really lot of importance, I would say that if you want to be a succeed manager the most important thing is to know about the economy of this game.

So i dont imagine how a manager that only want to dedicate 10 minutes doing the lineup etc can be interested on the game, when you see that you need to dedicate lot of time thinking about a good strategy on the economy-roster in a short-medium-long time. Its a fact that economy is becoming more complicated season after season(I dont whine about it, because im here since season 3, but others managers im sure they doesnt like this idea).

When this game is becoming more important to manage a team and not to be the coach* that can make lot of users keep leaving the game.


Last edited by Marot at 7/23/2010 3:29:59 PM

When this game is becoming more important to manage a team and not to be the coach* that can make lot of users keep leaving the game.

its a basketball management simulator not a basketball coach simulator.

we are not the coach.

we are the manager

other then that your completely correct.

to be clear i did not mean any offense to you, and i may have just misunderstood the part i quoted .
your one of the players i highly respect in this game , so i dont doubt that you understand the game , just to me it seems your upset that a management game is about managing something...... to me that seems well weird .

Free Agents. They lower the transfer prices by adding a big percentage of availbale players on the market, AND every time a free agent is bought, al the millions disappear out of the game instead of being spread forth and forth to new clubs via transfers etc. 2 major game affections.

I tend to think of Free Agents as part of the game's effort to take out money from the game that is introduced by income, tv contracts, etc. Of course money needs to be disappearing from the game, since money is being created within the game as well.

Yes. My point being that playing with this issue really has impact.

The point that Marot want to underline is that the managerial aspect of the game,that surely is very important,should be at the service of the "sports" aspect of the game
When some aspect of the managerial part,like the economy,is a too strong limitation for the sports aspect of the game,it means that something had to be changed

I don't think that stopping free agents is the only solution to the actual situation,the type of imbalance in the game it's the same that existed at the beginning when the free agent exists,when they were eliminated,and when they were reinserted again.free agents are an aspect of the situation,but surely not the main aspect

I have to agree with LA Kukoc, the market also allows the new managers to gain traction and get a team together, when the market goes high, only top teams can even look at them, they make more money and get the better players, so how can anyone ever compete. Even when you get to the top you are about 10 million behind in money so you get bought out of contention.

It is about timing, at some point they will have to stop with the free agents, which they will do, but creating a more even playing field is a good things

I think that deflation period where are now is inevitable. Free agents only boost it, but they aren't the reason.

The reason is that where aren't much old players whose salary would go down because of skill pop-downs, but there are plenty of young players whose salary is raising every season because of training. That means that clubs have to pay players more salary every season and because of that our expenses are raising. Our incomes remain at the same time relatively same, so we have less money to spend on TL, which causes decreased demand(deflation). That deflation will be naturally over when players salaries wouldn't increase dramatically every season.
Of course BB could insert some money in the system, but they have to give a big thought where and how much to insert to have a desired effect. If they do it unwisely we could end up with another big inflation and some players unfairly getting advantage\disadvantage.

Well, people can finally realise that players with potential under allstar are in fact a better decision, because evey level of the potential means also bigger salary raise with every skill.

Sad is that now you will sell fully trained star very cheap. While in fact will be big moneysaver for the next owner. However economical situation like this will help people to realise that.