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Yeah, including by-passing the rules by claiming 26years old are actually 21.

Who couldn't play a single minute. Just bad managing, wasting free roster spots for unfieldable players.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 10/14/2009 3:46:38 PM

No. Try again. First, it doesn't matter if it did any to harm others or not. Second, at times when FAs are not switched on, only way how to safe potential nt players is by call ups (and drops later when enthusiasm is not an issue) - which u21 teams should be able to do only with players not older than 21, there is 18 slots per nt team for a reason. It obviously wasn't the case this time (but it shouldn't matter) , in this case - since all wrong players were from u21 coach team - it was obvious that someone misunderstood how merchandising boost from nt players work (or hoped for a bug occuring in a formula) and exploit buggy feature - abulity to call up old players to u21 team. Which is obviously against the rules - yes, there is no direct meniton in the rules but neither was bout 22 years old actually playing for u21 team couple season ago and that was punished as an abuse. You can't chose one without the other.

I don't care if he is cheating or not, someone other would have to submit a cheaters report - which i think is pretty moot considering that coach is actually a GM (!). What is sad is the whole "oh, they can't play, everything is all right then, what's the buzz about it?" type of reaction from BB authorities, which is sending a pretty bad message to community and surprised many (non-global users included).

(unlike Juice I think critics make things better)

(unlike Juice I think critics make things better)

There's a difference between criticism and attacking.

I'm always surprise the way you seem to represent (and speak for) the community. Nobody is sending that message, you just conclude things in a strange way.

Also I find it pretty weird to raise the subject cheating while you say you didn't care. Also be aware that public cheating allegations aren't allowed. Please just submit a cheating reports (if you care) next time, I'm sure the community would love you trying to make this a better (and more fair) game by submitting cheater reports.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 10/14/2009 6:31:05 PM

i don't think this is a kind of cheating to be reported that way. this "mistake" was made by a NT coach whose intention was obvious. it is a situation that clearly needs to be pointed out and discussed. there might be other ways to take advantage of "bugs" which in this case doesnot have an effect more than this guy's intentions. ı would certainly take some actions against him if i've been a BB, and if that wont be the case, then at least there must be some corrections on those bugs and a public notice would be more than necessary.

I'm always surprise the way you seem to represent (and speak for) the community. Nobody is sending that message, you just conclude things in a strange way.

Also I find it pretty weird to raise the subject cheating while you say you didn't care. Also be aware that public cheating allegations aren't allowed. Please just submit a cheating reports (if you care) next time, I'm sure the community would love you trying to make this a better (and more fair) game by submitting cheater reports.

Fail - quoting Charles

There is no bug here - the U21 team can indeed have ineligible players on their roster. It is probably not recommended, since the players cannot play and will hurt enthusiasm when dropped. However, we tend to give national team and junior national team coaches a lot of latitude, since they're elected by their country and have to face the voters if they don't do a good job.

If you think a user is cheating, please don't use the bugs forum (or on any forum) - there's a separate system for reporting suspected cheaters.

If you think the rules should be changed, please use the forum for suggestions.

Since there's no bug, I'm closing the thread.

You could know there are other users than posters on global threads - national communities. Should I ignore they are shocked too?

(unlike Juice I think critics make things better)

There's a difference between criticism and attacking.

I guess it is a skill not to see an attack over facts in critiques then.

Thanks for illustrating my point..

Nobody is sending that message, you just conclude things in a strange way.

..by quoting the message posted by Charles.

@LA-Pacerized, I agree with you, however if anybody seems to doubt if it was cheating or not, the best way is to send a cheating reports and then the GMs will decide whether it's right now not.

The general "I only critisize things, but I'm to lazy to take any action to help/bring in any possible solutions so someone else should do that" won't really help many people as well, especially when the problem is know already (not directed to you, just in general)

Yeah, including by-passing the rules by claiming 26years old are actually 21.

Just to make you know, only a complete fool would have "cheated" that way, and Repetti has proved well (see the last world championship) he's no fool.

As you can read here around in Global (I can't remember which thread it was), he saw some unlabelled grey buttons in he's players page, and trying to make them disappear he listed that players.

He had also kind a fight with BB's trying to make them unlist players who in theory could not even be possible to enlist without losing TS.

So, before indulging in clichè on italians and so on, please, try thinking out of the box for a second.

Are you serious? Do You really believe that someone like Repetti could do that? Especially in a country like Italy where there are so many people care?

No...You are jocking, isn't it?

they can't play official games.

If you notice all of them play in the own team of the U21 manager. All that to increase the merchandise income (i think).

It's a kind of "self favour", maybe is not so correct, but sure it's very "italian".

unfortunately talk without know what you are talking about is very italian, too