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146246.14 in reply to 146246.13
Date: 6/11/2010 6:21:38 AM
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Its hard to understand what you are trying to do with the economy, when there is only 6 sentences talking about the increase of the salaries(at the begining of season 12) and now 4 sentences telling we will have lower salaries. The translation is ok, but the information that the managers we read is really low, unless someone reads the english global forum(and most of the spanish users dont). So yes i said it some months ago on the first change of the salaries, some more information would be nice.

Anyway that now i see what economic model you are trying to do based on the trainings i will keep my thoughts for me. Just what worries me, is that the transfer market needs to be more regulated, its the most affected thing with the changes of the salaries and if this will happen at least for some more seasons, i doubt we will have a balanced market, were the offer&demand is really far from balanced. The little Wall street of BB ;)



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146246.15 in reply to 146246.14
Date: 6/11/2010 9:39:31 AM
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Its hard to understand what you are trying to do with the economy, when there is only 6 sentences talking about the increase of the salaries(at the begining of season 12) and now 4 sentences telling we will have lower salaries.

If the BB's only say a little bit people complain that there is not enough information given. If they say too much they run the risk of their statements not becoming true and people complaining: "But you said this was going to happen". They gave us a heads up while limiting what they said as I'm sure until the season is actually over they do not know exactly the % that salaries will be adjusted by.

Just what worries me, is that the transfer market needs to be more regulated, its the most affected thing with the changes of the salaries and if this will happen at least for some more seasons, i doubt we will have a balanced market, were the offer&demand is really far from balanced.

You have to remember that BB is still very young. The market itself has not fully developed and wont be for a long time. Players have not been fully filled out and these adjustments are to keep the market reasonable as the BB's see how this game develops. Even when the market is developed I doubt that it will be balanced as there will always be changes effecting what is in demand and what is not. I don't think this change was hard to see coming and I feel more members have to be ready for changes. If the game stayed exactly the same season after season it would slowly fall apart and these changes are to preserve and improve the game we love so much.

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146246.17 in reply to 146246.16
Date: 6/11/2010 11:08:31 AM
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I dindt say BB's lie, i just disagree about this economic model, thats all.

Anyway, thanks for posting the information and arguing about this new ''change'' that was announced, i really appreciate you post to comment it.

PD: Yes probably i read them(I usually read all), but i cant remmber the ''probably'' changes that the game will have or at least not all of them.

Thanks.

Marot

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146246.18 in reply to 146246.15
Date: 6/14/2010 12:43:18 PM
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So we have to anticipate salary changes every season or the game will fall apart?

In Hattrick that has not happened and they have a few more users than us.

I look forward to my ban for disagreeing with you.

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146246.19 in reply to 146246.18
Date: 6/14/2010 1:21:38 PM
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So we have to anticipate salary changes every season or the game will fall apart?

In Hattrick that has not happened and they have a few more users than us.


but hattrick has also problems with Salary monsters, in this game the top players earn what clubs could pay ;) This makes the NT more intresting, because NT players are maybe not the best deal but you could buy them without going bankrup and also this is a bit more realistic.

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146246.20 in reply to 146246.18
Date: 6/14/2010 1:26:11 PM
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The concept is similar (but not an exact replica) to the NBA's system:

The actual amount of the cap varies on a year-to-year basis, and is calculated as a percentage of the League's revenue from the previous season; for instance, in 2007-08, the NBA's salary cap was approximately US$55.63 million per team, and for the 2008-09 season it was $58.68 million.

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146246.21 in reply to 146246.18
Date: 6/14/2010 1:28:13 PM
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So we have to anticipate salary changes every season or the game will fall apart?

In Hattrick that has not happened and they have a few more users than us.

I look forward to my ban for disagreeing with you.

Right, and that's why we had to live through a deflation period where all players lost 80% of their value. Such a problem, coincidentally, is yet to happen in BuzzerBeater.

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146246.22 in reply to 146246.18
Date: 6/14/2010 2:46:51 PM
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So we have to anticipate salary changes every season or the game will fall apart?
You can either try and anticipate them or simply react. The BB's give fair warning of how they think the game will progress.

In Hattrick that has not happened and they have a few more users than us.
Hattrick is also in its 41st season, BB is in its 12th. I'm sure Hattrick has had to make many adjustments when they first started and still make tweaks along the way. They have had major issues once their membership began to stagnate and realize their economic model had stagnated, thus causing them to have to rework the economy and create a big "scandal".

BB will continue to develop and change in the future depending what the BB's see and determine is best for the game as a whole. We can either accept those changes or not, but either way they will happen.

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146246.23 in reply to 146246.19
Date: 6/14/2010 3:34:58 PM
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Why have I read talk about farm teams on the forums?

And very high waged centres? If a new user bought any of the top earners would they not bankrupt him?

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146246.24 in reply to 146246.21
Date: 6/14/2010 3:48:12 PM
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Such a problem is hardly equivalent to the game falling apart.

Hattrick is still played by quite a few more users than this game.

It is interesting to note that on the one hand you are quite happy for people to have to adapt to different salaries every season, but adjust to a deflation brought about by market forces??? No no no no no no. The horror!!! OMG!!!

Well that too, is management. I don't see why it such a problem for you. Companies IRL have to deal with different market conditions all the time. Only a few, like some banks, have the comfort of government bailouts to see them through.

I suppose, since I replied to your post, I will get a ban for trolling now.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 6/14/2010 3:50:07 PM

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