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Let me get this straight:

LCD causes more substitutions, but only in case the subs skill is a little less than the starters.

On my last two games I've played LCD. On the first I put an SG A, and he played 40 and he played 40 minutes, where his sub (lets call him SG B) played the rest 8. On the last game, I've put SG B as a starter and SG A as backup. According to what you've said, SG A should get a good amount of minutes, as he have better skill than A. Nevertheless, SG B, which had a lousy shooting game (4 of 20 from the field) was given by the coach 42 minutes (!), where SG A only got 6, which he used marvelously 9 points (3 of 3 behind the arc!).

How can we explain this?

Before you said one game was in "Follow DC until 4th" and the one after was in "LCD".
"Follow DC until 4th" means SFDC for 3 quarters, which explains everything, as detailed in my previous post.

an other option would be to add the posibility to set a minimum or maximum amount of playtime for players.

You could then for example tell the coach to have the substitute play at least 15 minutes, or have the starter play max 35 minutes... or even have the substitute play at least 25 and max 30 minutes.

This has been suggested before and it would lead to much too easy training of players etc.

How would it be a challenge to train perfect amount of minutes and still win if we could specify the exact minutes a player plays?

Why does training and setting minutes have to be such a challenge?

Why does training and setting minutes have to be such a challenge?

this is a very good question.

I would love to play a game which is realistic but making it difficult to give the players a certain amount of minutes is very unrealistic.

i want to tell my coach this guy should play 35min. if a players is having a good game, coach can decide to play him 41 min, if he is having a bad day coach is able to say u r only playing 29 min.

Why does training and setting minutes have to be such a challenge?

this is a very good question.

I would love to play a game which is realistic but making it difficult to give the players a certain amount of minutes is very unrealistic.

i want to tell my coach this guy should play 35min. if a players is having a good game, coach can decide to play him 41 min, if he is having a bad day coach is able to say u r only playing 29 min.

The game needs to be a challenge.

If everything was handed to everyone, there'd be no point in playing.

I hope you will agree with me that there are lots of challenges in this game. Why do you need to make unrealistic ones when this is the case?

The minutes thing is not really a challenge, if you think about it. It just means you have to log in more often to keep massaging your line-up. Does the game want to advantage people who can log in more often?

I hope you will agree with me that there are lots of challenges in this game. Why do you need to make unrealistic ones when this is the case?

The minutes thing is not really a challenge, if you think about it. It just means you have to log in more often to keep massaging your line-up. Does the game want to advantage people who can log in more often?

My personal opinion (which may not be that of the BBs) is that you should need to log in at least once for every game you play to issue a lineup, and that those who do not want to pay attention to their teams should suffer for it.

It's not like I'm saying that someone should have to login 3-5 times a day, not at all.

But, a professional basketball team does not run on autopilot, with the same players getting the same minutes game after game.

It certainly is not an unrealistic challenge to set lineups that:

A. Optimize training, and

B. Win

Of course, winning is largely unimportant for a scrimmage, and it's the minutes that count.

Providing minutes to your players is a challenge, and one that can be overcome with just a little time, not a lot.

This is a game and as it does try and represent the real world, it cannot completely.

There has to be challenges especially for the number of minutes played, because it is a crucial part of the game. Training will be essential for income and keeping the top teams at competitive performance. If this was as easy as setting 48 mins for 3 centers each week then training would be much too easy.

As it is currently a player can keep the form of a player throughout the week effectively without logging in. Just set the same 'winning' lineup on the 2 tournament games and then set the backups and reserves ONLY in the scrimmage.
This way the starts will most likely get full training time and the backups might keep a decent form.
This requires only one log-in per week.

Does the game want to advantage people who can log in more often?

There should certainly be some, albeit slight, advantage to logging in more often. Even if it's for getting the best deals on the transfer market or tweaking your training minutes, or for some other system that someone is bound to come up with. More active players should have a slight bonus over less active managers.

Buzzerbeater is not a real time game, where you really have to log on every 2 hours to achieve anything - unlike some other popular internet games. True, there is a certain amount of micromanagement built into optimizing your team training, but on the other hand, missing a lineup once in a while isn't going to be that detrimental to your chances of success. It's not as if time spent logged on to the game is a huge advantage.

Sure, we could reduce the training challenge to make it easier. But, somewhere down the line, someone is going to suggest a bid agent for the transfer list so you don't have to be online for player deadlines and then someone will suggest an automatic transfer list scan for when you're looking for a player and don't have the time to do it yourself. Both of which aren't really challenges either - you just have to log in more often to be more successful at doing them.

We could implement all of these automatic processes in the game - it's more than possible to build tools to do it. But I seriously doubt that many people would actually log in, click a few buttons once a week and enjoy the game.

I certainly agree with all the points you made. I don't think it is wise to have everything be brainless. And I understand that this is not real life.

I'm just someone who wants to be able to control my minutes more. I don't want complete control - just more control. Whether this comes as a weighting system for each position, a range of minutes or whatever. I realize there are limits. As stated before, I would also like an option of whether to "rest" players in foul trouble.

But that's just my opinion. If everyone else feels differently, as seems to be the case, I'm cool with that.