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187558.15 in reply to 187558.14
Date: 6/20/2011 5:16:34 PM
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yes, there were many european busts. But there were many American busts, too. And then there's the success of some European players who were drafted very late. Do you really want to consider the Gasol brothers, Tony Parker or even Danilo Gallinari busts? And I'm not even talking about Manu Ginobili, who was taken with the 59th pick overall! (and who should be considered European for these purposes, as he played in Italy before being drafted)

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Date: 6/20/2011 8:58:58 PM
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I can't really explain Rubio other than hype and youth made it seem like he had unlimited potential -- but it sounds like he didn't develop much this year.

In general, I think there is a scarcity of bigger players (just because of the demographics) and thus the NBA is always looking for big men. In general, I think big men are drafted higher and more so on potential than a PG or wing. Thus there tends to be more big men "busts" -- not just American players, but from everywhere.



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187558.19 in reply to 187558.16
Date: 7/29/2011 3:48:01 AM
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You know, most of the young bigs are a bust. Here is a list of american bigs who dont deserve their draft pick.

Jason Collier 15
Kwame Brown 1
Marcus Fizer 4
Stromile Swift 2
Melvin Ely 12
Marcus Haislip 13
Michael Sweetney 9
Robert Swift 12
Adam Morrison 3
Shelden Williams 5
Patrick Obryant 9
Hilton Armstrong 12
Robin Lopez 15
Hasheem Thabeet 2 The flop


And as you can see, I took players only from the top 15. So there is no difference between european and american bigs.

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Date: 7/29/2011 5:10:35 AM
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Huh? Robin Lopez is a Center.

And I think we can say the same about American players. Michael Beasley? 2nd pick, even probable 1st pick, bust. Oden? 1st pick, constantly injured. Morrison (even if he's no Big Man)? 4th pick, ultimate bust. Tyrus Thomas? Shelden Williams?

It's not like NBA teams draft all that well. This has nothing to do with players being European or not, and everything with general hype and stupid GMs trying to outsmart everyone.

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187558.23 in reply to 187558.22
Date: 7/29/2011 11:51:56 AM
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Robin Lopez scored 20.4 ppg last season (in only his 3rd season). His FG percentage and rebounding aren't great, but for somebody taken with the 10th overall pick, I'm not sure I'd say he's a bust.

Morrison is a total bust, but he's really a wing.

Then there is Kevin Love that a lot of people were saying was too short and too slow out of college...and we see how right they were!



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187558.24 in reply to 187558.17
Date: 7/29/2011 3:26:15 PM
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I can't really explain Rubio other than hype and youth made it seem like he had unlimited potential -- but it sounds like he didn't develop much this year.

In general, I think there is a scarcity of bigger players (just because of the demographics) and thus the NBA is always looking for big men. In general, I think big men are drafted higher and more so on potential than a PG or wing. Thus there tends to be more big men "busts" -- not just American players, but from everywhere.




Oden being chosen over Durant is a prime example to go with Bowie over Jordan. Top bigs are rarer than top backcourt guys. Rubio seems like a media and PR move as much as a basketball one. I dont think the T-wolves expect him to be an answer to their woes. Being a backup on a poor team doesnt rate the attention, but his name and place of origin do.

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