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187726.14 in reply to 187726.13
Date: 6/25/2011 3:54:16 AM
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It was meant funny. Sorry if you feel offended by that.

I just wanted to point out, that exponential functions can vary a lot and bring out infinite results, depending on how it is built.
No offense against anyone... Relax please.

Last edited by Thunder Dan at 6/25/2011 3:54:34 AM

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187726.15 in reply to 187726.14
Date: 6/25/2011 4:32:48 AM
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It felt offensive, and I was a bit iffy to begin with, so I also apologize on my part:) The exp functions can vary quite a lot, there's no way other than experimenting, to know the exact numbers

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187726.16 in reply to 187726.9
Date: 6/25/2011 7:06:50 AM
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N^c (where c is a constant) is polynomial..
c^N is exponential..

a simple equation:
c^48 = 100 /log
48logc = log100
c~1.1007

now for c=1.1 we have:
1.1007^48 ~100
1.1007^47 ~ 90.87

however, the constant can have whatever value, and then they can scale it to 100%..
for example, if c were 1.15, then:
1.15^48 = 819.4
1.15^47 = 712.52

and 712.52/819.3 ~ 87%..

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187726.17 in reply to 187726.12
Date: 6/25/2011 7:38:07 AM
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Lol. Mathematics is the same on whole world (and even universe). And therefore if we meet extraterrestrial civilization then our first contact will be based on mathematics, to show that human are intelligent form of life ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_function
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial_function

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_function

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187726.18 in reply to 187726.16
Date: 6/25/2011 9:26:07 AM
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N^c (where c is a constant) is polynomial..
c^N is exponential..

a simple equation:
c^48 = 100 /log
48logc = log100
c~1.1007

now for c=1.1 we have:
1.1007^48 ~100
1.1007^47 ~ 90.87

however, the constant can have whatever value, and then they can scale it to 100%..
for example, if c were 1.15, then:
1.15^48 = 819.4
1.15^47 = 712.52

and 712.52/819.3 ~ 87%..



Beautiful math. So 47 minutes should get you between 87-95% of full training.

And if the model is exponential - which is impossible to know for sure - then anything less than 48+ minutes is pretty damaging.

By your model, 40 minutes only gives you 46% of full training.

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187726.19 in reply to 187726.18
Date: 6/25/2011 9:32:47 AM
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but it could be also more slightly choosing an small N like 1.0001, or making the difference smaller through an constant affecting t.

c_1^(t*c_2) && c_2 <1
but you could make it also worse with the same tricks, in a different direction.

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187726.20 in reply to 187726.19
Date: 6/25/2011 9:45:33 AM
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You're right, without knowing the constant this is all worthless conjecture.

However, Fenris' equation is the most mathematically efficient. His equation penalizes pretty harshly for not meeting the full 48 minutes, though, so maybe the constant is lower?

As I said at the beginning, worthless conjecture.........

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187726.21 in reply to 187726.20
Date: 6/25/2011 10:28:43 AM
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I feel stupid. :(
Is this related to Algebra cause I just took it. Oh well, maybe I should've paid more attention. :)

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187726.22 in reply to 187726.21
Date: 6/25/2011 4:05:08 PM
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My crystal ball says the numbers guessed in this thread are probably correct.