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Actually, I can fight againt LI and my question is not about "I cant fight against LI so I hope the engine change"
as I stated before, is it many teams using 3C in reality?
I just find BB become more and more unreal.

Also, everyone know that LI have advantages as it mentioned in the recent news some seasons ago ( I forgot the actual no.) so many teams use it and it becomes a trend.
I DO know there are methods can fight against LI as I try it too but dont you think 3C LI is a good trend?

>_< My presentation is not that good,all in all, I think it is unreal and become less fun.


Last edited by po at 9/14/2011 1:02:13 PM

Thanks for your reply! You just stated what I feel too.
and that's why I hope to readjust the engine

Obviously a manager who has managed to play 3 of his last and 8 seasons total in V league has a great overview of the game engine and all the strategys available. You have played inside offence last in season 14. You have low quality players + your opponents can be crushed with any tactic, even with a recently started team (if you are able to use the 300k on half decent players). Did you accidentally post under the wrong account:) Bizarre...

Seriously, learn how to read. The german user understood perfectly:

He just stated what you often read on the forums. Either LI is too strong or (/and) 2-3 too week.

I stated what people say. I'm not saying it.

Sorry I'm not staying here reading you accusing me of multiaccount.
And by the way, the GE is the same in I or V league, if I'm still at the bottom it's because of some problems I don't want to discuss here, I can't understand why some people have the need to mock you because of your league / your position / your ranking / whatever. Maybe to answer is hard, to mock is easy.
I've been playing since S9, I'm definitely not a pro, but I think I know something about this game.
If you want to discuss, please post something, if you want to accuse/mock, please go away.

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 9/14/2011 9:50:30 AM

How many teams in BB are using 3C-s? Are the best teams using 3C-s? Are national teams using 3C-s?
Without a doubt Centers are the easiest positions to train. Inside players are easy to train -> a lot of managers train inside players. Eventually there is an overflow of inside players on TL and their price goes down. Most of them really lack outside skills. With cross training this will change a bit, and reduce the training efficency of monoskilled monsters. So with the game so inside player heavy, it's easier to build a working LI team than it is to create a outside team. Additionally, people are not training jump range. Why? Because the skill is salary heavy. The only teams that can handle great big men, great guards and timeconsuming small forwards are national teams. If the natinal team has no patriots (that create a superbalanced SF), they are forced to sometimes use SG-s or PF-s at SF spot. Using PG or C at SF with decent teams competing (we are not talking Italy vs Malta here), true SF's will demolish the opponent.
Like always in basketball, short range jumper, is an easier shot, than a long range jumper. Adding people training regimes (more inside than outside player trainers, JS+DR training for guards, lack of JR training) we get an outcome where we are now. Outside offence is just fine, you just need to get inside stoppers and outside gunners. LI is not stronger, it's just more suitable for more players, that BB managers produce.

The fact is that on BB there are 2 catchphrases:
* LI is broken (too strong)
* 2-3 is broken (too weak)

These are your facts. Where is your research?
I am not accusing or mocking you. I am stating a fact that in lower leagues players often have inequalitys in skills, teams have different levels -> so it's not really a desireable platform for any tests. The game engine is the same, but the player quality is not nearly the same.
I'm having a problem with you as a manager, who states something he has heard somewhere, while being stuck at lower levels of this game for some time. Has not tested any of his statements out himself (running mostly the same offence for 2 seasons now) or even having a suitable platform to test it out. Has not gathered information from top leagues/managers/NT's.
It does not matter what your excuses are. This is not a hardcore game, this game can be successfully played while logging in TWISE a week. So basically your progress shows lack of motivation or lack of knowledge.
Just like I would have heard from 7 people, that Italy playes in blue (in basketball and football), because it's their national flag color and state that as a fact.

the game is not only played in the top end, i am rather sure that more players play it at a lower level so i wouldn't look only at the top end.

Experience is not everything, you could get valuable observation also in short time and also get knowledge through reading and combine it.

I don't really agree with it, but normally i would say i am in a minority on that and also i think this is off topic here. When i find the right thread fast i will link it here, so that you two could continue your discussion but maybe not only at the league level/time in the game basis.

Edit: so have fun here -> (181900.1). And here we could discuss if there is a trend to play with 3 C, and/or if it is to powerful. I would disagree in both, and would also say the current trend is playing with none C and replacing them with PF.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/14/2011 12:19:29 PM

I'm having a problem with you as a manager, who states something he has heard somewhere

You have serious problems of reading comprehension, really.
I repeated above:

I stated what people say.I'm not saying it .

Can you get that?

I'm not saying it

Moreover, I don't think you know the meaning of "catchphrase".

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 9/14/2011 12:38:25 PM

Well, actually I´m using the 3C attack quite often myself, but to be honest, two of those three centers are not centers by default. Players are listed as Centers for quite a long time if you give them high Inside Skills, so even one of them with a skilsum of roughly 100 just recently switched his position to PF (and most likely might go back to center later in the season).

Not everything "labeled" C is really an old style Center guy. And using those kind of Centers at PF and SF makes every offense quite deadly.

I know exactly what a catchphrase is. But still you are a poster behind it -> thus you imply this is true. So basically it would still be equal with this. ->

Just like I would have heard from 7 people, that Italy playes in blue (in basketball and football), because it's their national flag color and state that as a fact.

Why would you not state, that many have sayd LI is fine + BB's have stated you have to have some type of players for certain tactics. Why post anything if you have no preference nor knowledge?

Last edited by Kukoc at 9/14/2011 1:32:43 PM

Edit: so have fun here -> (181900.1). And here we could discuss if there is a trend to play with 3 C, and/or if it is to powerful. I would disagree in both, and would also say the current trend is playing with none C and replacing them with PF.

I have already posted in this thread and so has Charles. He has explained the situation quite clearly imo.

Edit: so have fun here -> (181900.1). And here we could discuss if there is a trend to play with 3 C, and/or if it is to powerful. I would disagree in both, and would also say the current trend is playing with none C and replacing them with PF.

I have already posted in this thread and so has Charles. He has explained the situation quite clearly imo.

i just wanted to lead you to a place to discuss it ;)

Today my first PL opponent played witha Center on SF, it wasn't really a fair matchup but i think his +/- and points per 100 shots says a lot about it and i even don't line up a shooter against him.

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