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203775.14 in reply to 203775.13
Date: 12/4/2011 3:09:18 AM
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Everybody seemed to slam LeBron for a player not being loyal to his team, but it the Celtics traded Rondo in this manner, wouldn't it kind of be the reverse (considering the contributions Rondo has made to Boston)? I guess its a business though....

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Date: 12/4/2011 3:30:38 AM
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Everybody seemed to slam LeBron for a player not being loyal to his team, but it the Celtics traded Rondo in this manner, wouldn't it kind of be the reverse (considering the contributions Rondo has made to Boston)? I guess its a business though....

Fair call... but I think at least part of it was the carry-on-luggage LeBron brought along. All the years of saying "I'll never leave" kinda felt heavy when he left the way he did. And whilst Rondo's been part of an amazing revival at Boston, it's a bit short of the importance LeBron had for Cleveland.

Anyway, moot point I guess, as I very much doubt Rondo goes anywhere.

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Date: 12/4/2011 4:47:34 AM
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Everybody seemed to slam LeBron for a player not being loyal to his team, but it the Celtics traded Rondo in this manner, wouldn't it kind of be the reverse (considering the contributions Rondo has made to Boston)? I guess its a business though....


why is a player who is send a away not loyal? Afaik only 2 player in the league can deny a trade, and thats Nowitzky and Kobe, who put this clause into their contract(which is only possible if you play for a long time for a team).

LeBron chooses to go away, and makes a spectacel out of it where he not even informed his old team from his decision ... You might say that Paul is not loyal, but he is at least honest and don't see himself as the King.


Edit: sorry missed the reserved part, i also think that players had to few rights. So you could say this to every trade, besides the two above. But i think that not so disadvantaged for one side and self focused like the decision.

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Date: 12/4/2011 8:12:51 AM
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why is a player who is send a away not loyal? Afaik only 2 player in the league can deny a trade, and thats Nowitzky and Kobe, who put this clause into their contract(which is only possible if you play for a long time for a team).


Is it true?

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Date: 12/4/2011 9:01:20 AM
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True that they have that clause in their contract, not really true that other players can't impact where they go.

Both Chris Paul & Dwight Howard are coming up on their last season of their current contracts. If they say flat out "I will not sign an extension for team X", then no way on earth will that team sign them as merely a one season rental.
They may not have quite the power Dirk/Kobe have, but they still wield a pretty fair amount.

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Date: 12/4/2011 5:11:55 PM
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True that they have that clause in their contract, not really true that other players can't impact where they go.

Both Chris Paul & Dwight Howard are coming up on their last season of their current contracts. If they say flat out "I will not sign an extension for team X", then no way on earth will that team sign them as merely a one season rental.
They may not have quite the power Dirk/Kobe have, but they still wield a pretty fair amount.


but it is mostly their fa phase and their pre fa phase(if not restricted). And then also short term deals, could make sense.

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203775.21 in reply to 203775.20
Date: 12/4/2011 5:42:06 PM
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True. But that's exactly where Paul/Howard are at the moment. I don't see either getting short term deals - it doesn't make a whole lotta sense for the team taking them on, or them.

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203775.23 in reply to 203775.13
Date: 12/5/2011 11:52:46 AM
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Except he's not a better fit for Boston than Rondo. So much of Boston's identity is keyed up in their D - and Chris Paul's D is "meh".
I think Boston would be stupid to cash in on Rondo, even for Paul. Ainge has come out and said as much too.

There's not much left in Boston's core group, and there are serious questions about Rondo as a future building block, evidenced by his lack of progression last season when he was needed to step up his overall game. There's always been a sense that Rondo's flaws on both ends of the court have been masked by Boston's schemes and other personnel. When all of that is gone, who would you rather have, Rondo or Chris Paul?

Paul will go to the Knicks, but if the Celtics had that option, they couldn't afford to hesitate.

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203775.24 in reply to 203775.23
Date: 12/15/2011 2:28:21 PM
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Im just happy to see Paul landing in the Clippers.Seein him playig P&R with Shake&Blake will be superb