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208292.14 in reply to 208292.13
Date: 2/6/2012 9:30:01 AM
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I got a $4,500 salary 18 y/o with star potential, so he can be a very good player at levels 3 thru 5 the way I see it. But I think he tops out in level 3 and becomes a bench player/scrimmage filler if I ever make it higher than Level 3.

Would this be an accurante statement by me? Or is this $4.500K trainee with star potential not going to be a good player in Div. 3 with proper training, of course.

Here is his skills.........

Weekly salary: $ 4 510

Age: 18
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: average Handling: average
Driving: awful Passing: average
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: inept Free Throw: average

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208292.15 in reply to 208292.14
Date: 2/6/2012 9:51:21 AM
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In Canada and many smaller countires that trainee maxed out could still be a fringer starter in D2 and a backup in D1. And he could definitely start for a D3 champion.

In the US, its probably harder to justify starting a $25-30,000 guard in D2. All the levels below D1 are stronger in the US than most other countries because of your much higher user base.

But just train him propely and he definitely has value, either to yourself or on the transfer market. Fast forward a few years and a well trained star level player is still more valuable than a poorly trained superstar prospect.

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208292.16 in reply to 208292.15
Date: 2/6/2012 10:03:10 AM
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I'm studying draftees, not just for my team but for others, too. And it appears that a guard with decent skills will have a lower salary than a big man with bad skills. Why is this?

I've already seen a couple of inside players drafted with no skills worth talking about that have a starting salary more than $1,500 higher than some guard draftees with better skills. Why?

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208292.17 in reply to 208292.16
Date: 2/6/2012 10:07:34 AM
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for the same reason why highest payed players in bb are centers- inside skills rises salary more than outside ones.

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208292.18 in reply to 208292.11
Date: 2/6/2012 10:14:44 AM
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My draft was so disappointing, I'm drinking cold Coors Lights left over from last night's Super Bowl party. And I've not drank this early in the morning in 20+ years.

And yes, the mountains are blue. They were left outside all night, so cold isn't even the word for them.

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208292.19 in reply to 208292.17
Date: 2/6/2012 10:26:02 AM
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My guess is inside players are worth more because they do produce better. My inside guys dominated this season and that's why I won. In last night's championship game, my 20 year old center trainee had 40+ points and like 16 rebounds. My forward led the league in scoring and won the MVP. Yet my guards had better skills and I even played outside based offenses from time and time without that kind of success.

Are inside guys easier to train than guards? Seems like, at least to me, guards have more skills that matter, while bigs have only a few skills that matter. Am I wrong on this?

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208292.20 in reply to 208292.14
Date: 2/6/2012 10:26:59 AM
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That guy can definitely be a good player up into D3. And if you make it to D2, he could be decent depth, especially for a cup run.

As for home draftees, I suspect that a portion of their salary is returned via merchandise, but that the precise % depends on playing time. So he will still effectively have a lower salary than another guy with similar skills, but not drafted by your team.

Really though, this guy has very good starting skills, and decent height to make a nice combo guard. He has 1 awful skill (in one that's easy to train) and 1 inept (other than stamina). I personally would sure as heck train this guy up. He shouldn't be the centerpiece of your training program, but he should have a spot in it.

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208292.21 in reply to 208292.20
Date: 2/6/2012 10:34:59 AM
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That guy can definitely be a good player up into D3. And if you make it to D2, he could be decent depth, especially for a cup run.

As for home draftees, I suspect that a portion of their salary is returned via merchandise, but that the precise % depends on playing time. So he will still effectively have a lower salary than another guy with similar skills, but not drafted by your team.

Really though, this guy has very good starting skills, and decent height to make a nice combo guard. He has 1 awful skill (in one that's easy to train) and 1 inept (other than stamina). I personally would sure as heck train this guy up. He shouldn't be the centerpiece of your training program, but he should have a spot in it.

So you're saying there is no reason for me to be killing the cold Coors Lights this morning to drown out my misery? :)

THanks for the info. It is greatly appreciated. I think the fact that I got a 6th man potential and a Role Player potential player, in my mind, drags down the one decent draftee I got. Heck, last season I didn't even try and got THREE perrenial all-stars in the draft.

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208292.22 in reply to 208292.19
Date: 2/6/2012 10:35:16 AM
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Completely feel for ya, gotta agree with folks about luck being a major factor when it comes to drafting. Last season I was middling in my league's standings and was looking forward to the draft. I had my eyes set on this one guy in particular and since I was the first human owner to pick after all the bot teams I was sure he was mine. Alas, he (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/22092682/overview.aspx) got sniped up by some bot team a few picks before me. On the flip side, I was #1 in my league this season so wasn't expecting as great a draft but I think I did pretty damn well. I'll have to wait until the draft history is listed to confirm but I think I managed to get 2 of my Top 5 despite my draft pick positioning.

I guess all I can offer is wait until next draft and hopefully the coin falls on your side next time.

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208292.23 in reply to 208292.21
Date: 2/6/2012 11:27:24 AM
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probably best draftee in my league was this one, and i got it!

tlyginimas: $ 3 521
Rolė: Įtakos nedarantis žaidėjas
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 0
Amžius: 18
Ūgis: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potencialas: super žvaigždė (8)
Forma: gerbiamas

Metimas: baisus 3 Pataikymo nuotolis: pusėtinas 5
Išorinė gynyba: baisus 3 Driblingas: baisus 3
Veržimasis : gerbiamas 7 Perdavimai: gerbiamas7
Artimi metimai: baisus 3 Vidinė gynyba: gerbiamas 7
Kova dėl kamuolių: gerbiamas 7 Metimų blokavimas: netinkamas 4
Ištvermė: pusėtinas 5 Baudų metimai: katastrofiškas 1

gona traim him into pf without OD.

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208292.24 in reply to 208292.23
Date: 2/6/2012 11:42:27 AM
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Superstar potential?

Great passing skills if you train him as a big man.

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