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and a outside offense produces more misses naturally.

If this creates more misses, doesn't this actually give you more chances to rebound offencivly? Boggled...

that why i say, you should look for a ratio, instead of totals.

Edit: ok mean value was a bad word, but i meant like you get 10% of the offensiv boards.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/7/2012 3:48:48 AM

What ratio are you talking about? % of off reb's from total reb's. Or are you talking about team rebound rating. Team rebound rating get's smashed really easily with forcing a rookie to play 12 mins or so. If look inside has additional rebound boost, the tactic must have a downside aswell, if motion for example lowers the total or offencive rebounds, then there must be an additional upside so the tactics would all be equal in useability.
Currently the playerbase is more suitable for inside tactics, that does not mean outside tactics are weaker. So let's not get into that in this thread.

What ratio are you talking about? % of off reb's from total reb's. Or are you talking about team rebound rating.

about both, the second part is a fact, the first one would be a meaningfull statistic.

If look inside has additional rebound boost, the tactic must have a downside aswell, if motion for example lowers the total or offencive rebounds, then there must be an additional upside so the tactics would all be equal in useability.

you shoot more three for example, and utilize JS/JR a lot better?

Zone defense also effet rebounding, but not all on a positive way ;)

you shoot more three for example, and utilize JS/JR a lot better?

LI utilizes IS,DR better.

Zone defense also effet rebounding, but not all on a positive way ;)

With defences it's pretty straight forward. M2M is a bit more inside based, with 3-2 being it's equivalent on the outside. Neither boosts rebs. 2-3 clumps up the middle, giving up mid range and long shots and makes it easy to pass. 1-3-1 pushes defence to the perimiter making it hard to pass and dribble while rebounding suffers.
But I do find this an interesting approach. So if the inside tactics do raise rebounding rating, what do the outside tactics raise? It can't be easier passing, it isn't the low amount of turnovers. How does pace come into play etc.

so JS is a better training since it trains for skills, and OD just 3?

And i am quite sure, that 3-2 reduces your rebounding.

Edit: but with your weird calculation, motion raises mid distance and long distance shots ;) While LI help just close range and rebounding^^

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/7/2012 8:04:16 AM

Actually I´d like to "invent" another tactic option considering transition and the team going for offensive rebounds.

Transition Options -

Offensive: Go for the Fast Break whenever possible (downside: worse D rebounding, higher TO rate, stamina use, upside: easy buckets now and then, more assists, more fouls from the defenders but also a higher Charging possibility), Fast Break after a Steal only (no influence on rebounding) , Always Set Ofense (no changes at all, no TO increase).

Defensive: Always go back (higher possibility of stopping opponents fast breaks, decreased offensive rebounding), play the passways (guards / forwards don´t got back at full speed, but try to get a solid mix between going for the rebound and defending the passing lanes), full attack of the board (increased orebounding, but might lead to plenty easy buckets from the opponent).

I think that would probably change the "dominance" of a set tactic since you might be able to get hold of an opponents weakness and exploit it. Look Inside usually means you´re more vulnerable to quick penetration as mentioned before, so the combo of LI and "go for the OReb" against a Zone of some kind with "go for the fastbreak" might lead to a highly interesting tweak in things.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 5/8/2012 5:35:29 PM

i agree with the offensive rebounding boost by Look Inside and it's a good idea to increase the number of fast breaks against this..
however, we already have fast breaks in this game and they only happen after a steal or after an unsuccessful steal attempt..
a serious engine modification is necessary to include rebounding in this logic..

Agree with that.
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