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228815.15 in reply to 228815.14
Date: 10/25/2012 12:08:11 PM
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I think that OD should be at least 12, because a lot of teams use SG type players in SF position.

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228815.18 in reply to 228815.16
Date: 10/25/2012 12:46:48 PM
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A guy with 11/8 10 OD and 10/10 IS/ID is already a very good SF for Div 4 or maybe even Div 3, imho.
But all of this depends on your tactic.

That level of SF can compete well in D3. He should dominate in D4. Probably more of a back up in D2.


I am surprised to hear that...my current SF, like I stated previously, is pretty much exactly that with no skill lower than strong on everything else. He is by no means dominant in DIV and I suspected I would have to move him to back up in DIII or outright replace him.

Maybe my DIV is just extra tough and DIII won't be quite as bad depending. I know IV.32 was known to be one of the toughest the last few years.

I will back off my stance slightly from OD 12 on opponents, but would not assume lower than 11 OD. 12/9 JS/JR would be rather nice in a base offense for DIV USA. Of course a touch less JR for look inside and a touch more for run n gun, but the OP asked about a Base Offense SF.

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228815.20 in reply to 228815.1
Date: 10/26/2012 5:27:24 PM
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There is simple rule which is answer for Your question.
If default position of Your player is PG or SG then JR shouldn't be trained (it's probably too high, sometimes it's almost perfect).
If default position of Your player is SF (or PF or C) then JR should be trained as long as default position will change to SG or PG.
In other words ideal JR for SF (and PF and C as well) is on level, in which next training will change default position to PG or SG.
You can use salary calculator to test different options.

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228815.21 in reply to 228815.20
Date: 10/27/2012 6:08:46 AM
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Very interesting opinion. I will use salary calculator to see how it should be theoretically. ;)

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228815.22 in reply to 228815.20
Date: 10/27/2012 7:51:42 PM
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There is simple rule which is answer for Your question.
If default position of Your player is PG or SG then JR shouldn't be trained (it's probably too high, sometimes it's almost perfect).
If default position of Your player is SF (or PF or C) then JR should be trained as long as default position will change to SG or PG.
In other words ideal JR for SF (and PF and C as well) is on level, in which next training will change default position to PG or SG.
You can use salary calculator to test different options.


JR is the third most expensive skill for SF, and it is very close to the second most expensive. OD,ID,PA,IS are all cheaper than JR or free and are all more important than JR on SFs. All of these are pretty much always going to be better to train on any player who's default position is SF. Also RB is a more important skill at very close to the same price and DR is close to as good while being free. All that's left is SB (rarely trained), HA (also free), and JS (better skill but major cost driver).

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228815.23 in reply to 228815.22
Date: 10/27/2012 7:58:06 PM
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I think a fair estimation is that if you're down 3 in a game with a minute left and your guy misses six or more 3 point shots in that last minute trying to tie it up (or narrow the lead down after the free throw parade), you probably want more JR. Or to take the lead earlier.

But realistically, it depends on what you want from your SF. If you're running a lot of outside offenses or get stuck taking a lot of threes because your flow sucks or because you tend to be down single digits in the last minute, JR is probably a good thing to have. But the thing with SFs is that they can also use passing, and driving, and OD and ID and rebounding and shot blocking and just about everything - the challenge more is to get as good an overall player as possible at the best salary point.

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228815.24 in reply to 228815.23
Date: 10/28/2012 7:47:43 AM
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I think I will stick with 9-10 in JR for my player. It will be enough offense for him because JS will be 19-20 and IS about 12-13.

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