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I'm with Evaristo on this one. Fair enough wait until it gets down to the last three minutes, that's just smart. But to then extend it inside of the last three minutes? That's pathetic and rude in my eyes. And as he points out, it *may* exasperate the other bidder (the only potential upside I'm aware of), but it also extends the auction to the point where it often attracts other interested bidders who might have missed the auction had it not extended.

And as for the next guys point - I think it was coach lambini? - don't ever PM me if I'm in a bidwar with you. That's disrespectful to me, to the seller, and next to cheating in my eyes. If you wanna do it then whatever, just don't try and involve me in it. The harder you try to force me out, the more likely I am to continue bidding. If I want someone, I bid on them. If you want them too, then outbid me, don't try and cheat the market and deprive the seller of what they deserve.

If everyone had the common decency and courtesy to bid as soon as the final three minute window opens, and the respect to let the market play itself out and not try to privately tamper with it, it would run a LOT better I feel.

My point is why take such risk? If a player is worth 75k and you put 350k. The Gm feeling on that matter is the law. You really want appeal a Gm word in that matter, good luck. Why risk that assumption on their end ? It does happen all the times fine and bans, may be not too you because you know your player prices but it does happen to those who don't and over assume[overbid]. Its to just best to bid at time limit.

Its a strategy to extend the bidding hoping that you go offline so they can steal a player. I do agree with you that the longer the auction end time gets extended allowing more bidders to come in and drive prices higher. My advise is to increase bidding increments to scare off the competition especially if its a special player that you are acquiring.

Lets say a player is easily worth 1m in your estimation and the current bid is at 200K instead of bidding the next increment why not increase the next bid to 350K why waste time going thru the motions when you know this player is still a bargain at 350K and you are certain that price will easily be beaten. It also weeds out competitors who just bid for the sake of bidding. If I like a player and i am at the last 3 minutes of bidding i would always start with 35% of the actual value if possible for that player and take my chances from there. Obviously, if its a very special player I expect to pay a 100% of that value or even more. Gone are the days you can buy a 100K plus player for a $1000.

I'm with Evaristo on this one. Fair enough wait until it gets down to the last three minutes, that's just smart. But to then extend it inside of the last three minutes? That's pathetic and rude in my eyes. And as he points out, it *may* exasperate the other bidder (the only potential upside I'm aware of), but it also extends the auction to the point where it often attracts other interested bidders who might have missed the auction had it not extended.

And as for the next guys point - I think it was coach lambini? - don't ever PM me if I'm in a bidwar with you. That's disrespectful to me, to the seller, and next to cheating in my eyes. If you wanna do it then whatever, just don't try and involve me in it. The harder you try to force me out, the more likely I am to continue bidding. If I want someone, I bid on them. If you want them too, then outbid me, don't try and cheat the market and deprive the seller of what they deserve.

If everyone had the common decency and courtesy to bid as soon as the final three minute window opens, and the respect to let the market play itself out and not try to privately tamper with it, it would run a LOT better I feel.

Hold on, it's smart to withhold making a bid until the end if the process, but rude to keep the process from going. Huh?


As for what you had to say to me, I never try to "force anyone out" all I do is explain my need for said player/staff. if it is that important for you to get him you will keep bidding and I would be the one who backs away. It is not short changing the seller, he set his asking price. It is not disrespect, if anything it is showing respect. And it damn sure ain't cheating or collusion, it is smart economic sense.

This is usually done for one of two reasons. The first possibility is that it's a resolve check. The last minute bid looks to either swipe a player from a distracted manager or increase the chance the competing manager will start making emotional decisions rather than rational ones. Usually, whoever stays calm wins regardless of who had the winning bid.

The second possibility is that the US represents the third-largest population on BB. Statistically speaking, at least half of all Americans have made the mistake of listening to soft rock. By the time a decision is made on what kind of shrug that Michael McDonald song warranted, it's too late. The Eagles are up playing "Take It to the Limit" and now there is no reality in which that song is not stuck in your head. So while you have 3 minutes left in your auction, half of all Americans are begging Randy Meisner to shut it for 5 seconds so they can find a guard on the TL to shore up the defense. The only advantage you have as a competing manager is that the bidding strategy/lyrics are online explaining exactly what is going through their head.

In my experience, it's always one of those two reasons.

Agreed

This strategy is great to get other managers in a bid war to fold in exasperation, provided you have the time for it. I have used it several times against other people if they did it first. Typically the same people come with BB-mails crying about it and how they really want the player or trainer and I tell them they asked for it and after the next unsolicited email I will report them for spamming.

I have managed to bid a couple of times with 0 seconds remaining, maybe that should be made impossible.

The solution was simple: create an autobid system and do not extend the auction (or reduce the time from 3 minutes to 1). Users said no, so they must enjoy tactics like this. When they do it themselves. When someone else does it to them the whine and cry.

This is usually done for one of two reasons. The first possibility is that it's a resolve check. The last minute bid looks to either swipe a player from a distracted manager or increase the chance the competing manager will start making emotional decisions rather than rational ones. Usually, whoever stays calm wins regardless of who had the winning bid.

The second possibility is that the US represents the third-largest population on BB. Statistically speaking, at least half of all Americans have made the mistake of listening to soft rock. By the time a decision is made on what kind of shrug that Michael McDonald song warranted, it's too late. The Eagles are up playing "Take It to the Limit" and now there is no reality in which that song is not stuck in your head. So while you have 3 minutes left in your auction, half of all Americans are begging Randy Meisner to shut it for 5 seconds so they can find a guard on the TL to shore up the defense. The only advantage you have as a competing manager is that the bidding strategy/lyrics are online explaining exactly what is going through their head.

In my experience, it's always one of those two reasons.

Michael McDonald is the musical equivalent of my mercurial SG, great in small doses in a supplemental role IE when MM used to sing backup for Steely Dan, or when Warren G sampled him for regulate. But as a focus he is absolutely the s**ts Saw him open for the Dan back in 2006, well saw is stretching it, suffered is a better description. I like what a friend of mine said 30 years ago, when he left his spot with The Dan to go to the Doobie brothers it made both bands worse. Then again we can also put the Dan into the equation with the Eagles since the line from hotel California "they stab it with their Steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" was a wink and a nod to the line from The Dan's "Everything you did" which is a song about a man confronting his woman about a affair where he says to "turn up the eagles the neighbors are listening" . And that boys and girls is your 70's classic hits history lesson for the day!

Last edited by Coach Lambini at 7/14/2019 10:19:19 AM