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Good point, it encourages forward thinking.

They should make the field 256 teams so every team has a 1st round game. Priority for berths:

0. BBB Sweet 16
1. League Champion
2. Cup Champion
3. League Regular Season Champion
4. Cup Finalist.
5. League Playoff Finalist
6. Cup Semifinalist who lost to cup finalist.
7. League Conference Champion
8. Cup Semifinalist (other than 6).
9+. League regular season record, excluding relegating teams.

A team that qualifies for multiple reasons would use its highest priority qualification, and other teams would move up. A Sweet 16 team would not count against its country's entries.

Countries would be ranked based on the number of wins in the 5 previous BBB's. 63 countries would get 2+ berths. The top 9 would get 4+, and the next 12 would get 3+. The 84 + teams (one per country) would participate in the play-in.

Based on games in this seasons BBB (subject to recount), the countries with 4+ berths are:

Italy, USA, Canada, Argentina, Georgia, France, Serbia, Switzerland, and Portugal.

Those with 3+ would be:

Brazil, Poland, Germany, Sweden, Scotland, Japan, Australia, Malaysia, Uruguay, Netherlands, Norway, and Philippines.

The other 63 countries would have 2+ entries.

This would result in 212 direct qualifiers, and 84 teams contesting for the final 42 berths via the play-in.


Last edited by jimrtex at 6/30/2008 2:03:46 PM

It has everything to do with the idea that I'm always going to have a hard time getting past King Drive Ballers. :)

It also has everything to do with the idea that I'm always going to have a hard time getting past Salisbury Auerbachs, especially since there's no more regular TIE/Normal/CT in the conference playoffs. :)

It even has everything to do with the idea that I'm always going to have a hard time getting past the Chicago Bulls, especially since there's no more regular TIE/Normal/CT in the conference playoffs. :)

Fixed these statements for the remaining members of your division

I would like to vote the 3 of you into the BB3 every year just to give the rest of us in the Big 8 a chance

the more chances team get into bb3 the trouble it is i think how to schedule the matches for one season.

but i think it would be nice to see a division match ups meaning, at first the winners of divisions and the cup champions goes into one bracket going at it.

while another division of bb3 are for the runner ups, they going against each other.

if the seeding are done correctly we might a high division going against a lower division team but who cares we might probably see a upset in this thing.

but of course the money differs and also how its done having the powerhouse more edge in the long term

what shall we call the second competition...

BuzzerBeaters Second Best? - doesn't quite have the same ring about it!!

I think that group stages that give every participant at least 4-5 games is a good idea... many teams have to make big sacrificial decisions to qualify and if their first draw is away to a really top team then I think this is quite harsh.

Like Champions League.. you know you are going to get revenue from 6 matches - this is something which makes the forward planning and decision making much easier and fairer for all.

but what is the tricky part is how do we integrate the lower or runner up group into the normal or champions bracket in due time is it when atthe end of the champions bracket or simply . . .

harsly to say since they are just accomodated ., . . . we could give them the final seed of a final 8 or final four having the top or the best team going at them right away

i know its kinda unfair but i cant see anything that could benefit both sides since one is accomodated and one is truly worthy of being in their in the first place

This season there were 222 teams in the BBB, 188 of which played in the first round with 34 byes.

There are 84 countries, and thus a possibility of 168 teams qualifying based on league or cup performance, so 8 rounds are still needed. Since the format can accomodate up to 256 teams, it makes sense to include additional teams.

Since we are discussing who should be invited to participate on the B3 or not, I would like to express that I think teams from NT coaches who have won titles with the NT but no titles with their team should NOT participate.

This is a club tournament and titles with NTs have nothing to do with it. A team that never accomplished anything should not be on the B3.

And I also believe that former B3 champions should NOT have guaranteed participation in all future editions. They should receive an invitation to the next edition only, so they can defend their title.

And I also believe that former B3 champions should NOT have guaranteed participation in all future editions. They should receive an invitation to the next edition only, so they can defend their title.

Couldn't agree more! Otherwise you'll get in trouble in the next couple of seasons when many spots are taken by winners.

I however do not agree with the point made that some countries should have more participants than others. The champions league of all is the best example of this! Taking a dutch teams for example: It evolved into a system where the whole team of PSV eindhoven is bought for half the money than what real madrid is willing to spend on cristiano ronaldo. This is (besides differences in tv money) largely due to the fact that large countries have more spots to qualify. PSV could only marginally compete due to the fact that they qualify every year. Ajax and feyenoord are now doomed because there is only one certain spot available. In a major league you can finish 4th and still qualify. This brings more money to the major leagues every year which means that differences between large and small countries grow larger every year. This is something I do not want to see happening, you'll have to earn your spot as mentioned above!

Since we are discussing who should be invited to participate on the B3 or not, I would like to express that I think teams from NT coaches who have won titles with the NT but no titles with their team should NOT participate.

This is a club tournament and titles with NTs have nothing to do with it. A team that never accomplished anything should not be on the B3.

And I also believe that former B3 champions should NOT have guaranteed participation in all future editions. They should receive an invitation to the next edition only, so they can defend their title.

agree to both points!!!!

i agree on the first part

if your saying that the champions on b3 have auto ticket to the next tourney of b3 then its good, but to make them always there even without getting the needed qualifications this is a no. one thing for sure this is to also give way to the next great teams :D