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is the delay referring to the tactics option change? Other than that I think things have been going on basically as we have promised, plus the new site, which I cannot underestimate how much time has gone into.. and even so i know it isn't bug free. Perhaps we should have pushed it back farther and tried to fix more bugs, but we really thought we had the number of bugs down to a much lower level than it turned out to be... when you shine the light of 50K testers on something you are going to get a much more thorough inspection than the light of 3 part time people, or even 50 part time people when we release it to GMs. Until this game gets much larger, or the online advertising revenue picks up a great deal this is going to be a game that is developed by people who are doing it more for the love of what they have built and the hope that it will get bigger... and we are slowly always getting bigger... and although we might not be able to do things as quickly as everyone would like, we really are trying to make choices that keep the game interesting for the widest number of users and trying to avoid pitfalls that we have observed in other massively multiplayer online games. I think veterans of hattrick will agree that we have as of yet avoided some of the pitfalls of that game.

I meant 'silly' as a characterization of your argument, that was a poor choice of words, I should have used extreme or something to denote that I felt the argument was portraying the situation as an extreme version of reality rather than realizing that the reality was a compromise between the extremes i was laying out.

I said that about the schedule delay becuase he used as an argument against BBs job, and I think that he was totally wrong using this argument. I don't know to wich delay he's referring, and i'm sorry if you misunderstood me, i'm not a natural english-speaker so maybe I haven't choosed the best words to express my opinion. I just wanted to say that you're doing such a great job and that if it has been some kind of delay (wich I repeat I don't know wich one he means) I'm sure that it wasn't because you didn't wanted to work on the game but because something unexpected could have happened.

I imagine that it's really difficult to work on this game while you're also working on a full-time job and that's why I think that his arguments were wrong.

Yeah, and I want a job where I work 30 minutes a week and get paid in gold bullion and I want a car that gets a million miles per gallon. What you do not understand and perhaps it is your translator, is that what the BBs want is for you to have to make difficult choices regarding your team. If you want to have the best players, that's great. You just won't be getting as much merchandise income as some other teams. You will, however, continue to be successful in your league which translates into better attendance revenue. Do you not see that? Are you just being stubborn or do you honestly not understand that these rule implementations are specifically set up to NOT allow teams to have the best of all worlds, like your excellent team from a small country has?



Maybe the Spanish cat isn't a supporter because he can't afford it, or doesn't want to be one. At this point in time, being a supporter is optional and it is very rude to ask someone why they are or are not a supporter.

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let me just say this is how i view all and any bugs we have... the more bugs/delays we have the fewer people I expect to support us, I see that we have a strong incentive to try to make the best game we have as people will enjoy a bug free game more than a buggy one, obviously we fall short of that often and that's our mistake. I can only try to do better, but please don't take from my comments that we are satisfied with the way things are when there are bugs, we are simply trying and sometimes failing given the intelligence and resources we have available. That's not an excuse, its only an explanation.

B) your assets. Currently you have 9 players on the market which you value at over 30 million dollars. How many teams could raise that kind of cash if they wanted?

Not many.... :D

I do think ratings should play some factor in the merch equation. Then, of course, people will whine about "what about when we play guys out of position?"

now you've got my blood boiling!!!!

yes, it is good for big countries. this is second time when teams from small countries are penalized - first is TV contracts. I am semifinalist of BBB last year. but I have TV Contract: $ 117 784 only. it is mock. this is "Balance" with big B .....

aren't you also blessed from the "weak" league, and higher visitor income through the wins if your competition ain't that taff that you get high tv money?

These rule implementations are not detrimental to you, they're to make the game fair for managers of big countries. As I told you before, in the Spanish D1 or the Italian D1 you won't see a team finishing the season with a 22-0 as you did last season. So if you had the stadium in equal conditions, with the same number of seats and the same prices, at the end of the season the spanish winner will have won less money than you, because he will have lost some matches that will have affected to their attendance negatively. Even being as good manager as you, the spanish winner will still win less money than you because the Spanish D1 league is much harder than other D1 leagues of smaller countries.

The problem comes when the winner of the Spanish D1 arrives to the BBB, and he sees that he has won his national league just like you, but he has less chances to win the BBB not because his is a bad manager, but because he plays in a much bigger country and just because he's from a big country he had less income than you, so he plays in disadvantage against you. So to keep the competition fair, the income of bigger countries must be increased to make it similar to your income, so they can compete in BBB in equal conditions.

About the supporter thing, I don't know what you mean with the Spanish cat, because if I translate it to Spanish or Catalan (wich is my natural language) it doesn't make any sense to me. But what I wanted to tell you is that from my point of view if you buy the game you have some rights that you don't have when you support it, and I think that when you support it you can protest if something doesn't work, but you can't not reproach them about anything. But that's just my opinion.

And by the way, I wasn't asking you why you're or you are not a supporter.

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you are not right. here was cup of attendance income last seasons, it is arround 550k last season. if spain leader had arena with 23000 seats then he acquired 550k, simillar to me. but lets look to new season.

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they are worse manager. they don´t play 1hour per day. they haven´t arena nor players for BBB. they didn´t daytrading - all my money are from daytrading. and - they haven´t competitor equal to me, no matter how big spain is.

With same seats and same prices, a team who wins 22 straight matches, earns more money than one who has lost 3, 4 or 5 times.

Do you really believe that they're worse managers? Of course they don't have arena or players for BBB, because I told you that they won less money than you, so they couldn't build huge arenas or pay astronomic salaries. But you won more money than them, so you could invest this money in the stadium, wich translates into more income and more and more. If they don't have competitor equal to you is because the game wasn't fair with them, because in Spain people who gets to the first division, have won in three or four divisions before reaching the first one, so they're the best managers, and for this reason it's a very tough competition. And being in a tough competition means that you can lose more games wich makes you win less money. They're not bad managers, the last season Spanish D1 champion, started in D5, he won the D5, D4, D3 and D2 in consecutive seasons, and las season he won the D1. When he was the NT manager he won the European championship and he was finalist in the World Cup, and if i'm not wrong he only lost one match with the NT in those 2 seasons. Obviously he's a great manager, like everyone in the Spanish D1, but no one from Spain has never arrived to the BBB's quarter finals. When I see this facts, it's easy for me to believe that the game wasn't fair with them, and that if you're from a country with few users it's easier to create a super-team.

When somebody win 4 promotions + championsship in row, he is good manager. And his competitors are inability (say the least).


by your opinion teams from big countries are handicapped. but NT from small countries are handicapped. BB mans, you must help NT from small countries!!!! increase speed of training for players from small countries!!!! it is same ....