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You are still blabbing about the same things. Can you already get the fact that noone is leaving the game because of the TL bidding system. Get real already...

Well, this is a lie as a fact, as one of the users who wrote here implied just that!

Those who already left, with great supporise, could not speak their stand here.

Those who has less time, will not be in forums a lot.

"Amazingly", those who claim against the new system, and with passion, are those who visited here a lot...
Now lets think whether they are those who are more flexible with time than the others.
Let's think why they (and you) prefer current auction system that gives that great advantage for those who are so flexible with time...

So what are you claiming now? That offline users are not a part of the bidding system now and will be in the new system? If you bid 300k on a player now and 300k with your new proposed system -> whats the difference,

If you think it is the same, so why are you against the suggested system? A realy bad excuse this time...

The difference (as you know and fear to change due to the known reasons) is that in current system he can only bet with the max value.
It may never come to that in the new auction system suggested.
By that he will not have the disadvantage to pay over value for a player.

Yes, money plays a big role in this game. "BIG SUPPRISE".
I'm sure that your tactic is not puting your max amount you believe a player worth and then goes to do other stuff.

Your bluff is just so obvious.

Do you realy believe that the developers will beliieve those lies?

It does not give, as not all can be that flexible with time, and being flexible with time does not make you a better BB manager.

you don't must be flexible, but investing time helps you and when you do then players run out also in this time period. You are intrested in.

You could also have a law asking money from whom who can jump higher than 2 meters - gives the same environment to whole. No?

quite sure those humans will have better chanches to land in the nba, then dudes with the same skill who can not. So why is it bad for them

1) Again, you are implying that on current system one who cannot attend will put the max price on a player from the start.
This same price is the highest price one will put in the Auto-Bid system by definition.
After that the regular bidding starts.
So what is the difference?

lets say autobid 1= 100k,starting price 1k, user willing to pay 110k.

So after the autobid the player cost 1k, now the player bids 2k and the autobid raise the price to 3k and so .. Now you are bidding against a maschine, which is for me atall people here in the thread besides you boring. Maybe it starts a bit higher when there is a second autobid on, but for more expensiv player the difference might be even higher.

That is a big diffeence if you bid against a maschine or a human.

[qAgain comes the excuse that I stand alone supporting it.
The votes prove that it aint so. Regardless which opinion was supported more.]

the votes show, that some people would like autobid more then the current system. Not that they like to have both, at one time, cause it isn't asked. And all who are said something about are against you, when i exclude you so i can say it like that in that matter.

[q2) In case you are here because of the auction bidding (which sounds ridiculous), than why BB managing?
Go to eBay or such.]

ebay have the auto bids so i prefer it here. And as i said, i am neutral in this case i can live with both but don't see really the necessarity to change anything. I play BB for more reasons, and use pretty less time to buying players. But if you have time for the game, there are other places you get bigger advantages, and i think it is fine so causse is it not a fair game like i roll a dice and you role a dice and the bigger number wins.

Because differenet environment to those who flexible with time (small group) and those who are not is "much more fair" than those who are new (much smaller group) and those who are not...

really bad arguing always saying that when you against it, is it just to keep competion away from us. As i said there are more challenging stuff, you need to invest time in it mastering the game ... And to destroy your illusions most people who try to argue with you here, also try to explain the keys to game in other forum(mostly with more succes, since you still say iaam against it in general). Which give managers are lot easier start, to figure out things and make then their opposition. So why we would do that, when we are just egoist who try to keep other user down if we help then in far more important aspect on their road to succes.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 10/27/2011 2:29:18 PM

Go read this again. (198973.81) That's why the current system is better. Your next responses show you are just swinging in the dark. Not really understanding anything people are saying. Just like every post you make.

The suggestion has pretty much been flogged to death. Let's try to introduce some new points of view (pro or con) in a friendly manner or close the discussion which has been a bit disrespectful for about 100 posts.

No success I am afraid. There is no point wasting everyone's time by going over the same arguments over and over again. Let's close this.

I would just like to add this could be a way to make some money from players who want the auto bid function which in turn could be used to develop the game faster and better in other ways. So even those that disagree with this idea may still benefit more generally in other ways.

I think its also worth remembering that the opinions of forum posters aren't necessarily representative of the bb community as a whole. Those with less time/who don't like using forums could be more likely to want an auto bid function.
Also as both a buyer and seller if players I cannot see a disadvantage to auto bidding because I wil bid what I think a player is worth to me in any case. However I know not all players do this and I wouldnt mind the extra competition when buying as I know the same competition will be there when i sell with autobid

Thanks

I would just like to add this could be a way to make some money from players who want the auto bid function which in turn could be used to develop the game faster and better in other ways. So even those that disagree with this idea may still benefit more generally in other ways.

i am quite sure, i said it before i don't like a system where humans could be forced to be in a bidwar with the machines like here.

Also i think this would be more then a comfort feature, and would give game advantage over people who couldn't do it even when it is just a slight one.

For me personally i think both system could work, but you should have only one of it.

I would just like to add this could be a way to make some money from players who want the auto bid function which in turn could be used to develop the game faster and better in other ways. So even those that disagree with this idea may still benefit more generally in other ways.

i am quite sure, i said it before i don't like a system where humans could be forced to be in a bidwar with the machines like here.

Also i think this would be more then a comfort feature, and would give game advantage over people who couldn't do it even when it is just a slight one.

For me personally i think both system could work, but you should have only one of it.

Because it is much "fair" to bid against less users, or those who just put a single bid and go to sleep/work/other.
I strongly suggest that you will try eBay. It has all what you wish for...

maybe i find a pini-real world translator there.

Humans wont be bidding against machines they'll be bidding against managers who type in what value that player is worth to them. This benefits all sellers equally and we are all sellers at one time or other.

A good system is one where in practice all managers enter the value of the player to them. Otherwise the outcome is not optimal. All this is covered in economic game theory.

Another advantage is that there may be less ridiculous reserve prices on players. If more players are bought and sold as a result then teams are more able to change efficiently.

it is only natural that those managers with the most time (typically those that post in forums) are protective over the slight advantage that this time can sometimes give them in the transfer market. However deals will still be found as the underlying ups and downs in demand and supply will still be there to be spotted and taken advantage of by savvy managers. The auto bid would allow them to benefit fully from this and from their onward sales

Last edited by Fluff at 12/6/2011 11:21:31 AM

I again don't feel it's fair that users would be able to be offline and have a computer bid for him in order to get the best price. Want the best price be online. Want to be offline bet the max you are willing to pay. Human factor is important in the TL, sometimes people forget they should bid on something etc. It's more natural than autobid.

Humans wont be bidding against machines they'll be bidding against managers who type in what value that player is worth to them. This benefits all sellers equally and we are all sellers at one time or other.

so the auto bid won't raise the bid, just know how much he would pay to write him the next day a message when you bid X you would get the player, or good that you wasn't there the player would have been to expensiv for you.

Or did the manager bid against a maschine, who act on the orders of the paying manager? In this case, it will never forget to bid, or leave a transaction cause you made high raises, or run out of patience etc. This are for me strength on the current system, which makes it funny for me. Against an bot it is frustrating for me to bid, cause you had to type in 20 times maybe a raise without a bit interaction with the opposing manager.

A good system is one where in practice all managers enter the value of the player to them. Otherwise the outcome is not optimal. All this is covered in economic game theory.

this would be ok for me too, this system maybe don't have the fun of a bid war(and may reduce income through less active non supporters) but other strength the current system doesn't have. As you mentioned.

Another advantage is that there may be less ridiculous reserve prices on players. If more players are bought and sold as a result then teams are more able to change efficiently.

don't think that his will impact the need, and therefore the number of tranactions.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/6/2011 11:40:41 AM