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245985.141 in reply to 245985.138
Date: 8/28/2013 11:03:21 AM
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LMFAO

I'm thankful for such a comprehensive argumentation of your thoughts on my statement. You must be very mature and experienced.

My answer is more sensible than your statements.Everyone who has played at half-decent level in BB can see the difference between having a 10 and a 12 ID on their big mans


If you have all the answers on what works and what doesn't, why are you still in D3 20 seasons into your BB career?

Of course higher ID is better, that's not the point. What people are discussiing here is how to build players differently under a cost effective model. We're discussing at what point training more ID becomes ineffective in terms of bang for your buck.

There are a lot of experienced manager in Italy,and I can't claim to be better than all of them for sure...and no one of them would say that there is no difference between 10 ID and 12 ID
To Build a player efficiently,ID and OD are the first skills to train.No matter what kind of team do you want to build on offense,you'll always need defense for your team
10 ID isn't a level acceptable for big mans even in III/high Iv divisions of the better countries in the world,so there isn't nothing to discuss.Even if you don't want to pump ID too much,if you want to build a very good player yo got to go much further than 10 or 12 ID

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245985.142 in reply to 245985.139
Date: 8/28/2013 11:06:34 AM
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There are a lot of experienced manager in Italy,and I can't claim to be better than all of them for sure...and no one of them would say that there is no difference between 10 ID and 12 ID


The poster your responded too didn't say there was no difference between 10 and 12. Try reading his statement again.

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Date: 8/28/2013 11:12:53 AM
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There are a lot of experienced manager in Italy,and I can't claim to be better than all of them for sure...and no one of them would say that there is no difference between 10 ID and 12 ID


The poster your responded too didn't say there was no difference between 10 and 12. Try reading his statement again.

But it can't exist any debatement about how building a player that is cost effective that sees a reduction of ID to such a low level
Defenses are good to train to high level in any cost efficiency model

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245985.144 in reply to 245985.143
Date: 8/28/2013 11:21:07 AM
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There are a lot of experienced manager in Italy,and I can't claim to be better than all of them for sure...and no one of them would say that there is no difference between 10 ID and 12 ID


The poster your responded too didn't say there was no difference between 10 and 12. Try reading his statement again.

But it can't exist any debatement about how building a player that is cost effective that sees a reduction of ID to such a low level
Defenses are good to train to high level in any cost efficiency model



IT seems you already have all the answers. No need for you to even involve yourself in a discussion about change. Carry on and good luck in D4 next season.

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Date: 8/28/2013 11:24:56 AM
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Do your big mans have 10 ID,for curiosity?

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/28/2013 11:25:12 AM

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245985.146 in reply to 245985.145
Date: 8/28/2013 11:34:41 AM
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Do your big mans have 10 ID,for curiosity?


They do not but I play an inside based offense, much of this discussion was based on an outside based attack like the Silverbacks have used with a high level of success.

Going forward I plan to train far less ID and train SB in it's place. For starters, this will build cheaper salaried players but I agree with many of the previous posters that LI can't be stopped even with high levels of ID. Therefore I don't agree with your opinion that it's a 'fact' that training ID has been determined is the proper direction for all users. If it was a fact we would actually have some positive results from it don't you think?

I would however like to see if LI can be stopped with high levels of SB now that they've altered the game engine but right now there aren't very many players trained in that manner so it will take a few seasons to start seeing the results of this.

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245985.147 in reply to 245985.146
Date: 8/28/2013 11:39:23 AM
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Good luck with your strategy

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245985.148 in reply to 245985.139
Date: 8/28/2013 11:49:07 AM
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There is no reason to cut IS,ID or REB,unless you are building a SF/PF(then you can cut REB,but then it would not make sense to train much SB) or a very specialized defensive player for outside tactics(then you could cut IS)
So it's not a myth,it's a matter of fact that SB is too expensive for what brings to a player and for what you got to pay in the general scheme of the economy of a team


Yes, the bolded part is precisely it. Except of course you can also make that player effective offensively with JS/JR/DR/HA/PA as well.

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245985.149 in reply to 245985.146
Date: 8/28/2013 11:55:42 AM
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Going forward I plan to train far less ID and train SB in it's place. For starters, this will build cheaper salaried players but I agree with many of the previous posters that LI can't be stopped even with high levels of ID. Therefore I don't agree with your opinion that it's a 'fact' that training ID has been determined is the proper direction for all users. If it was a fact we would actually have some positive results from it don't you think?


I know GM-Manon has been doing the SB thing for a while, so I suppose his team would be a viable preview of the ID+SB combo. I kind of wish now I hadn't stopped training OD when my bigs got to 10 but at some point I suppose their dreams of being PGs had to end. ;)

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245985.150 in reply to 245985.148
Date: 8/28/2013 11:56:07 AM
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Another point is,people seem willing to cut down on JR for their gurads when they playe inside tactics,but expect to play outside offenses with 15 IS big men and then complain about the cost..

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245985.151 in reply to 245985.145
Date: 8/28/2013 12:37:02 PM
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I wondered if you are worthy of a reply at all. You are picking cherries and taking things out of context only to be picking fights obviously. I didn't say to hrudey he has to have ID 10 on his bigs. But being in D.III, you probably don't know the difference between ID 18 and ID 16 for example. Lo and behold, I do! And it's much smaller than the salary boost! And how do I know that? Because I've been playing in D.I for three seasons now and you're still stucked in D.III, but you are talking down to me as if I "didn't play at half-decent level in BB", to borrow your words.

Btw, do you know what ID has center of Dyonisus, who won B3 three times? You probably do not. If you did, you wouldn't go and embarass yourself like that.

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