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251520.142 in reply to 251520.141
Date: 2/6/2015 10:25:42 AM
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I'm sorry but either this is true or not:
For games played during season 3 and later, we have replaced this with the more comprehensive matchup ratings. The matchup rating represents the number of points that players at a given position would have scored, on average, if they were to take 100 shots. A higher number is indicative of better scoring opportunities at that position over the course of the game, and of course you should try to take full advantage of your strength when selecting your tactics.
Team ratings are not affected by effort or the opponent, so there is that, but shooting ratings should do exactly what described in the game manual. If that's not the case, they might as well remove them. To be more specific:
Dude played motion:
PG 83.3/100 scored 11 points on 11 shots (this is equivalent to 100/100)
SG 105.1/100 scored 16 on 20 shots (80/100)
SF 104.0/100 scored 32 on 30 shots (106.7/100)

The opponent played LI:
SF rating 62.0/100, effectively 169.2/100
PF rating 89.8/100, effectively 104.5/100
C rating 93.3/100, so really 100/100

62 to 169 it's a 107 difference for the second best scorer in the game. It sounds very odd that the average would be 62.



Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/6/2015 10:46:00 AM

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251520.144 in reply to 251520.143
Date: 2/7/2015 6:49:12 AM
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That's why I gave you the comparison for the 3 key positions. 62 on average vs 169 in reality cannot be explained by normal means. It means that if they replay the same exact game another 7-8 times that player should go a combined 40 points on 87 FGA to balance things out while in this game he had 22 points with 13 FGA!

It makes no sense whatsoever: the most rational conclusion is that either the game manual is missing some key part in the definition or they made changes to the GE while this information (and the team ratings) have stayed the same and they are therefore less accurate than they used to be.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't lose with better ratings. But if you have better ratings and the opponent is also supposed to score inefficiently at the positions taking the bulk of the shots then something does not add up. Either something is missing or incorrect, but being unable to tell what was wrong is bad.

From: Bobkata
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251520.145 in reply to 251520.144
Date: 2/8/2015 9:14:54 AM
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I have some experience in this game,but can someone tell me "OMG how come i lose this game" :D

I mean.. i have 4 players each with more salary than my oporent's whole team. And i lose it..

Both teams played with the same effort - Take it easy.

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251520.149 in reply to 251520.148
Date: 2/15/2015 4:42:59 AM
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i like the concept "you are better in everything,but u gone lose boy".who cares if you lose money from tickets or whatever.its funny though.

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251520.150 in reply to 251520.149
Date: 2/16/2015 10:52:32 AM
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Here's another example: SF shooting rating per 100 shots is 120.9. That SF scored 16 points on 23 field goal attempted (69/100). Once again if the rating BB gives us is correct, to make up for that bad shooting and for the shooting rating to make sense, it means that if you replay the same exact game another 3 times the SF would go a combined 105 points on 77 FGA. Makes no sense.

Until they change team and shooting ratings into something meaningful that we can use, we won't know exactly what's happening and why. It seems more and more likely that these ratings are based on a different Game Engine.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 2/16/2015 10:54:17 AM

From: Siwy

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251520.151 in reply to 251520.150
Date: 2/17/2015 3:03:29 PM
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Well, today I played the match, which should be a good one for this topic...
(79420445), I had almost every stat better, but I lost... a bad luck or just great 3PT shots of my opponent?

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
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251520.152 in reply to 251520.151
Date: 2/17/2015 4:13:00 PM
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Most stats were close, except you shot 26% three's and he shot 48%, and he blocked 12 shots to your one. Home team won a close game. Is this extraordinary?

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