BuzzerBeater Forums

BB Global (English) > Look Inside tactic STILL far too dominant!

Look Inside tactic STILL far too dominant!

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
11
245985.144 in reply to 245985.143
Date: 8/28/2013 11:21:07 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
455455

There are a lot of experienced manager in Italy,and I can't claim to be better than all of them for sure...and no one of them would say that there is no difference between 10 ID and 12 ID


The poster your responded too didn't say there was no difference between 10 and 12. Try reading his statement again.

But it can't exist any debatement about how building a player that is cost effective that sees a reduction of ID to such a low level
Defenses are good to train to high level in any cost efficiency model



IT seems you already have all the answers. No need for you to even involve yourself in a discussion about change. Carry on and good luck in D4 next season.

This Post:
00
245985.145 in reply to 245985.144
Date: 8/28/2013 11:24:56 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
404404
Do your big mans have 10 ID,for curiosity?

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/28/2013 11:25:12 AM

This Post:
00
245985.146 in reply to 245985.145
Date: 8/28/2013 11:34:41 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
455455
Do your big mans have 10 ID,for curiosity?


They do not but I play an inside based offense, much of this discussion was based on an outside based attack like the Silverbacks have used with a high level of success.

Going forward I plan to train far less ID and train SB in it's place. For starters, this will build cheaper salaried players but I agree with many of the previous posters that LI can't be stopped even with high levels of ID. Therefore I don't agree with your opinion that it's a 'fact' that training ID has been determined is the proper direction for all users. If it was a fact we would actually have some positive results from it don't you think?

I would however like to see if LI can be stopped with high levels of SB now that they've altered the game engine but right now there aren't very many players trained in that manner so it will take a few seasons to start seeing the results of this.

This Post:
00
245985.147 in reply to 245985.146
Date: 8/28/2013 11:39:23 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
404404
Good luck with your strategy

This Post:
00
245985.148 in reply to 245985.139
Date: 8/28/2013 11:49:07 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
32293229
There is no reason to cut IS,ID or REB,unless you are building a SF/PF(then you can cut REB,but then it would not make sense to train much SB) or a very specialized defensive player for outside tactics(then you could cut IS)
So it's not a myth,it's a matter of fact that SB is too expensive for what brings to a player and for what you got to pay in the general scheme of the economy of a team


Yes, the bolded part is precisely it. Except of course you can also make that player effective offensively with JS/JR/DR/HA/PA as well.

This Post:
00
245985.149 in reply to 245985.146
Date: 8/28/2013 11:55:42 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
32293229
Going forward I plan to train far less ID and train SB in it's place. For starters, this will build cheaper salaried players but I agree with many of the previous posters that LI can't be stopped even with high levels of ID. Therefore I don't agree with your opinion that it's a 'fact' that training ID has been determined is the proper direction for all users. If it was a fact we would actually have some positive results from it don't you think?


I know GM-Manon has been doing the SB thing for a while, so I suppose his team would be a viable preview of the ID+SB combo. I kind of wish now I hadn't stopped training OD when my bigs got to 10 but at some point I suppose their dreams of being PGs had to end. ;)

From: Vari3

This Post:
55
245985.150 in reply to 245985.148
Date: 8/28/2013 11:56:07 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
2525
Another point is,people seem willing to cut down on JR for their gurads when they playe inside tactics,but expect to play outside offenses with 15 IS big men and then complain about the cost..

This Post:
00
245985.151 in reply to 245985.145
Date: 8/28/2013 12:37:02 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
I wondered if you are worthy of a reply at all. You are picking cherries and taking things out of context only to be picking fights obviously. I didn't say to hrudey he has to have ID 10 on his bigs. But being in D.III, you probably don't know the difference between ID 18 and ID 16 for example. Lo and behold, I do! And it's much smaller than the salary boost! And how do I know that? Because I've been playing in D.I for three seasons now and you're still stucked in D.III, but you are talking down to me as if I "didn't play at half-decent level in BB", to borrow your words.

Btw, do you know what ID has center of Dyonisus, who won B3 three times? You probably do not. If you did, you wouldn't go and embarass yourself like that.

This Post:
00
245985.152 in reply to 245985.147
Date: 8/28/2013 2:22:46 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
Good luck with your strategy


You are arguing, and may I add in an arrogant fashion, with two D.I leaguers who have a lot more experience on high level play than you about some theory you can't back up. Maybe you should take your head out of the clouds and study the game a bit instead of picking fights.

This Post:
00
245985.153 in reply to 245985.152
Date: 8/28/2013 2:44:30 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
32293229
Good luck with your strategy


You are arguing, and may I add in an arrogant fashion, with two D.I leaguers who have a lot more experience on high level play than you about some theory you can't back up. Maybe you should take your head out of the clouds and study the game a bit instead of picking fights.


Yeah, but let's be honest, you're both in I.1 in hockey countries (viva Kopitar!) so I'm certain your opinions can be discounted. ;)

From: SM

This Post:
33
245985.154 in reply to 245985.143
Date: 8/28/2013 3:05:50 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
9494
But it can't exist any debatement about how building a player that is cost effective that sees a reduction of ID to such a low level
Defenses are good to train to high level in any cost efficiency model


The key to BB is creating a salary efficient team, not running a particular tactic. Yes, in D.III where most of your experience is, 10 ID rather than 12 ID may make a big difference. Against 19 IS, it’s negligible, just as there’s not a dramatic difference between 3 ID and 5 ID against 12 IS.

Take my starting center, Macaldo, for example. His primaries are 19/9/18/4. This allows him to score efficiently (forcing opponents to think twice about running a 3-2) and rebound against even NT level bigs, while costing me a mere 85k a week. To increase his ID from 9 to 12 (which would do little to slow down elite bigs), he would cost over 120k a week. To get his ID to 18, where he would be much more effective but still struggle with a lack of SB, I would have to pay over 250k in salary.

I’ve found that investing in other areas (RB, OD, PA, etc.) produces a much more effective team.

Advertisement