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From: ned
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182720.147 in reply to 182720.146
Date: 8/17/2011 2:10:59 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Great, we play a diffent game. No need to have gift (and from season 2 I always had terrbile draft invevesting also $$$) but I would like that you too don't have any gift. I'm sure BBs must do something, I'm not paid to solve the details of the game but I pay to play. Then of course there is always someone that is afraid about news but this happens also in the real life...
Hoping in bad draft to all of you, regards

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From: pmfg10

To: ned
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Date: 8/17/2011 2:48:56 PM
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That's just bad luck, it happens, deal with it. If I have a bad draft, I'm sure I won't be complaining in the forums. Oh btw, see that 6.7k hall of famer in my roster? Drafted him :)

From: ned

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182720.149 in reply to 182720.148
Date: 8/17/2011 2:51:22 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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chicago here we are not talking about luck but about money, pls check the 147 posts before if it's not clear enough

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From: Mzungu77

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182720.150 in reply to 182720.147
Date: 8/18/2011 7:09:42 AM
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Hoping in bad draft to all of you, regards :)


Wow, you are a jerk. Please disappear.

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Date: 8/18/2011 8:54:22 AM
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Restrain from calling names, please.

From: ned

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182720.152 in reply to 182720.150
Date: 8/18/2011 11:03:06 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Second Team:
Slaytanic
. . . 77 what? No time to waste with you, you're too strong :p

Look at the sky, an elephant flying!!! I'm joking don't see it again!

This is a game and if I wish you a bad luck in the draft is not sure that you'll have a bad draft my dear baby

Last edited by ned at 8/18/2011 11:38:42 AM

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From: Flamen

To: ned
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182720.153 in reply to 182720.152
Date: 8/19/2011 8:44:59 AM
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wishing bad luck to people shows that you are not concearned for the game but just jealous.

I hope you get a good draft, a $4-6M draft just to see what you do with your draftees.

By the way, why do you recon the draft is labeled as "the lotery". Try reflecting over that.

From: MacMade
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Date: 8/19/2011 12:46:26 PM
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i purchased an 18 yo MVP PG for 2.5 mil last season. well, it was a bad move cuz i culdve gotten him for 1.8 but i was tired of the bidding so i went all in lol. Anywayz, a lot of you are saying it aint fair and dats true. but to the buyers like me, we paid not only for the players whom they are becoming but also for the fun and thrill of developing them. We spent the money for a game style ;P
Now look at my player now, possibly one of the best PG for his generation. If it wasnt for him, i wuldve quitted the game.

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182720.155 in reply to 182720.154
Date: 8/19/2011 1:44:05 PM
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But problem doesn't occur on Your side (buyer). Problem exists on side of seller, especially their league opponents ;-)
Good game need proper balance between luck and skills/knowledge of users.
If we have no luck factor in game, I think it will be boring game. Because before every match result will be known. So some luck is needed. But in other hand if we have to many luck in game, it think it isn't good too. Because it will be lottery, and skills and knowledge will have no matter.
I think if 18yo player costs 4M it means frontier is exceeded or we are close to frontier. It is enough money to build in one day unbeatable team in divisions 5, 4 or 3 and one of the strongest team in 2nd division.
Of course, somebody can say that everybody had the same chance to get in draft player who is worth 4M. But I can overthrow this argument but following example. Please imagine that before every season few of teams in BB have chance to find new sponsor - for example Roman Abramovich or arab sheik. And these lucky teams receive 100M. Everybody has the same chance. But question is - will such game interesting and playable? I think not, because all decisions made during season don't matter if faced with luck in one moment.

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Date: 8/19/2011 2:08:56 PM
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Problem exists on side of seller ? Problem ? What kind of problem ? For a few players sold from teams never heard of ? Is this an issue really ? What kind of imbalance it has created ?

How is it different from any other kind of player ? If the transfer fee is overvalued, GMs will take action. Simple.
Maybe for some of the transfers that were mentioned, actions have been taken.

If one gets lucky in the draft, good for him, why would you want to take it for him as long as the fee is ruled fair ?
This is what is fun with the draft, it's one of the more exciting event of the season.

If the argument is about the generous fee and not envy then let the GMs deal with it.

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182720.157 in reply to 182720.156
Date: 8/19/2011 2:25:46 PM
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You don't understand my point.
Problem ? What kind of problem ?

Problem of inbalance in game. I think 4M practically only thanks luck in comparition to price on TL means inbalance.
GM is needed only if rules are broken. Here rules aren't broken but it doesn't mean that everything in game is good.
If one gets lucky in the draft, good for him, why would you want to take it for him as long as the fee is ruled fair ?

I gave You example with arab sheik. If somebody wins 100M then rules will be not broken. But game will be worse, because then we will have 100% of lottery and 0% of strategy and tactics. I'm sure most of users consider BB as strategical and tactical game, not only pure luck.
If we have too many luck then we should play in toss coin game.

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